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The Homelab Reset Question, Claude SSH Access & Chrome Manifest V2 | Ed & Stefano Unleashed
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Unraid summer sale talk kicks things off before Ed and Stefano ask a simple but painful homelab question: if your main server died tomorrow, would you actually rebuild everything, or would you use it as a chance to clean house?
From there we get into backups, appdata cleanup, homelab creep, Docker Compose, low-power rebuilds, Anthropic Fable/Mythos restrictions, AI hype cycles, developers booby-trapping code against AI, SSD-based browser fingerprinting, another npm supply chain attack, Chrome Manifest V2, Brave, Pi-hole, Google AI search, SanDisk SSDs, internal boot, AI data centre memory pressure, and whether Claude should ever be allowed to SSH into your Unraid server.
Episode Takeaways
- Upcoming Unraid summer sale and store discounts
- If your Unraid server died, what would you actually restore?
- Homelab creep, old appdata and why a rebuild can be useful
- Community Apps versus Docker Compose for rebuilding services
- Low-power servers, local AI and the price of new workstation GPUs
- Anthropic Fable/Mythos restrictions and what they might mean
- AI hype cycles, GPT-2 comparisons and model safety marketing
- Developers hiding instructions in code to block AI scrapers
- Why AI hallucinations can become self-reinforcing
- FROST, the browser attack that fingerprints activity through SSD timing
- Red Hat npm packages hit by a credential-stealing supply chain attack
- Chrome Manifest V2, uBlock Origin Lite, Brave and Pi-hole
- Google AI search opt-outs and the “-AI” search trick
- SanDisk SSDs, DRAM concerns, USB boot, internal boot and SATA DOMs
- Why letting Claude SSH into Unraid is probably a bad idea
- A United flight turns around after a Bluetooth device is named “bomb”
Chapters
00:00 Welcome, Unraid summer sale and server disaster recovery
00:56 If your Unraid server died tomorrow
02:03 Pterodactyl, containers and what not to rebuild
06:08 Backups, homelab creep and appdata cleanup
10:01 Low-power rebuilds and RTX Pro Blackwell pricing
11:32 Anthropic Fable/Mythos restrictions
14:07 Anthropic IPO questions and AI regulation
18:04 AI hype cycles, GPT-2 comparisons and AI credit cards
22:13 Spark PCs, Mythos and local AI agent machines
23:44 Developers booby-trap code against AI
26:12 Ubuntu FIPS, missing knowledge and hallucination loops
29:07 FROST, SSD fingerprinting from the browser
32:57 Red Hat npm supply chain compromise
37:39 Chrome Manifest V2 and ad blocking
41:28 Firefox, Brave, Pi-hole and browser choices
45:27 Riverside, Chrome-only services and browser lock-in
49:15 Google AI search opt-outs and the “-AI” trick
54:04 SanDisk SSDs and DRAM concerns
56:55 Internal boot, USB boot and SATA DOMs
1:02:14 SRAM, DRAM and AI data centre memory pressure
1:06:06 Should Claude SSH into Unraid?
1:10:18 Recovering broken VM XML and GPU passthrough
1:11:04 United flight turns around over a Bluetooth device name
1:15:18 Sign-off
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Late Start And Housekeeping
SPEAKER_02Okay, Stefano. Are we live, sir?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02Oh, we're live. Hello, everyone. Um, Stefano and I are late as normal, our normal normal technical hitches. So hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Ed and Stefano show or Ed and Stefano Unleashed. So today we've got quite an interesting show, I hope. Um, some interesting news, something that came out last night that I thought was pretty interesting. But before we dive into that, um, I just want to start with a bit of housekeeping because we've got a summer sale coming up. I believe it is in July. So, you know, put that down in your mind, make a mental note about that. There's going to be discounts probably on licenses and various things in the store. I'm not sure of the exact details yet, but just wanted to let you guys know and tell you here first. So what I thought we'd talk about first, Stefano, is what would you do if your server died tomorrow or today? Would you be able to rebuild it, do you reckon? And same question to chat.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think the first thing I would do would be lay down, try not to cry, cry a lot.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, could I rebuild it from a technical standpoint?
Summer Sale Heads Up
SPEAKER_00Yes. From affordability standpoint?
SPEAKER_02Um, I'm I'm not really talking about the hardware. I'm talking about the software data. I'm putting it together like that. Yeah, we could all kind of I'm sure buy a new server or you know, cobble some bits together. But if you lost all of, you know, you just woke up one morning, there'd been a power surge, all your hard drives were fried, there was no data on there. And also, would you build it the same? Because I think a lot of us, we have
If Your Server Died Today
SPEAKER_02um self-hosting, home lab in creep where things we've got on our server and we never ever use them. I don't know. I have. I'm not sure if you have Stefano and you guys in chat. Any of you guys have got containers installed and you look at them and you can't even remember what they're actually for.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know if I'd go that far, but like I like I don't think I'd ever set up pterodactyl again.
SPEAKER_02Not because it's not a great container, but it's just well, what what is pterodactyl for people who don't.
SPEAKER_00So if if if you somehow miss it, pterodactyl is this great container that allows you to set up multiple game servers relatively easily. So if you're like constantly hosting different servers, let's say Minecraft as a great example for different friend groups. You know, friend group A can use a different Minecraft server than friend group B. And it just makes it really easy to set all that up. Um in multiple game servers, really. But there's a lot of times where I'm like, man, I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze on this one because it it is quite involved to get it set up. And then once it's set up, it's fine. But I don't know if I'd want to go through the pain of setting it up again, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02So it's a it's a container, or do you set it up in a VM? Container. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Would it maybe be easier to put it in a VM? Do you think something like that?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. That's a good question. Um, admittedly, I did actually uh I can't remember. Oh, so remember how I used to use the Firefox container? Um it's been giving me a bit of trouble lately. So I went out of my way and for the first time in a few years installed my first Ubuntu VM just so I could have basically a Firefox running inside of Ubuntu, which is a bit silly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, you know, I think if my server died, I would be a bit the same as you. I'd be pretty upset and crying. I'd probably throw something across the room in a bit of a tantrum. Yeah. But yeah, I think I would um be able to build it back. But um I would probably kind of as I built it back, I would maybe choose my storage setup slightly differently to how I've got it now. Um and kind of manage that a bit differently. Yeah. Set up different pools in a different way. Um, some of the stuff I've got, it's kind of legacy carried over from how I had my server set up before. And I've you know tried to kind of move things around. Some things I've done, I'm sure I've spoken about this a lot before, is my media, I keep it on various disks. And I've got very large disks in the server, particularly for that, so I can have all of my movies on OneDrive, all of my not OneDrive Microsoft, Stefano, one driver's in one single driver code. Before you kind of start berating me for that. How did you know I was gonna say something? I I'm getting to know you a bit too well now. But yeah, and then I've got, you know, um TV shows on another. So yeah, um I probably set things up a little bit differently. And I've got so many containers, I would definitely it would actually be quite nice to just delete all of my containers and then just install the ones that I want again. But one thing I'm not sure if you guys find out there is you delete a container and you actually forget to delete the app data.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, that's me. I'm that guy.
SPEAKER_02Yep. And you know, a lot of people I hear they'll delete a container, forget to delete the app data, then a couple of months later think, ah, I need to install that container again. I'm gonna give it another go. And then because they haven't deleted their app data, they've got the old app data there and the container doesn't work.
SPEAKER_00Yep. So that's me with like every game server ever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, a lot of us we don't really do kind of housekeeping of our servers sometimes. Yeah. I'm I shouldn't say a lot of us, because I'm sure most of us probably are a lot better than me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_02And are much more organized. Like, you know, some of my friends have got documents for absolutely everything about their server.
SPEAKER_00So like we go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02A friend of mine called Walter, um, if Walter's watching, um, over in Austria. Hi, Walter. Um he organizes everything and he has got everything documented about his server in a totally logical order. He can just find anything by looking at that. I like looking at that, I think, wow.
SPEAKER_00Is it hosted on a server? Because if his over his server were to die.
SPEAKER_02Um that's a good question. I'm not sure if he actually scores the document on his on his array. But but you know, I can ask him a question about his server and he'll just like go, hang on, let me look at that. And yeah, I'm just looking at in awe, thinking, wow, that is great organization.
SPEAKER_00But so Weholmes brings up a good good question to your to your question. Or actually, it's not a question, it's a a statement. But so he has a second unrayed server that he shuts down to say power, and he only powers it up for backups, which is exactly what I do as well.
SPEAKER_02Same.
SPEAKER_00So so in this scenario that you've presented, in my particular case, it wouldn't matter because I have backups of everything. But are we pretending that also the backups are dead?
SPEAKER_02No, we're really just saying if our main server went down, could we restore it? So those of us who have got backups, we could. But you know, the the bigger question really that I'm trying to discuss is would would you restore everything onto it? Um because you know, home lab creep is a real thing, I think, in in our community. We're all data hoarders and kind of and like we just think, I want to self-host this. And oh, what's the new app on community application? Oh, I'm gonna give that a go. Self-hosting this, you know. Um I have friends that say, Oh, I want to self-host my own
Backups And Homelab Creep
SPEAKER_02website. And I remember I've got mixed feelings about that. I've had friends who want to self-host email, and I always say, just don't bother. I don't know what your Yeah. No. Do you agree?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. Do not self-host email unless you hate yourself.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The kind of people that self-host email are people who play Tarkov.
SPEAKER_02Oh, wait a minute. So that's why you never reply to my emails.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because my email server is always broken.
SPEAKER_02You can self-host them. Oh man.
SPEAKER_01And you ain't never gonna get a coach.
SPEAKER_02But um websites are kind of, yeah, you know, you could self-host a website, but I'd say, you know, you know. Yeah, but then when you turn your server off, if someone is relying on seeing your website, and they see it. And it's so cheap to you.
SPEAKER_00It is it's so cheap these days.
SPEAKER_02How much is it? What, five dollars a month max, I would think?
SPEAKER_00Probably that or cheaper. Yeah, so um, uh so there's a couple other chats in here. Uh, but it seems like most people in chat currently have a backup that they could recover from. So uh Nubla says I have a backup I turn on from time to time. I could recover from that. Maybe I'd look into Docker Compose versus a community app. That's actually a pretty good alternative. Um because that's something I haven't done. I just rely on Q uh Community App as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um Yeah. Yeah, so there's a question in chat too that's kind of related to what you were talking about, app data. And uh Nico, I think that's Nick Eye Wolf. Uh what's the best way to clean up app data using the plugin? I need to turn down my brightness because I cannot read chat.
SPEAKER_02Hey Nick iWolf, how are you doing, man? Um yeah, the app data cleanup plugin is pretty good. Just install the plugin and run the plugin. And what it will do is it will just look for app data folders that are orphaned from the Docker templates that you have active on your server. The only thing to watch with that is when using that, always double check what it says is correct. It can make mistakes. Um and also just think about the fact that you may have installed a container and you've uninstalled it temporarily, and you want I've you know, I've done this before, and I've had the app data think, oh, uh, you know, I don't need that at the moment. I've just happened to uninstall it. And then you can run something like that and it would delete that data, and you think, ah, I wanted to come back and reinstall it another time. So sometimes you might want the app data if you know you're gonna reinstall a container at a later date. Um I hope that answers your question. Um but yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, um He said those are very good points, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but yeah, you know what always just double check you know what it says. Don't don't just blindly trust the plugin's always gonna be correct.
SPEAKER_00Um so Nextcloud. You know how Nextcloud is very popular? Nope. I wouldn't use like Nextcloud, uh any of those photo apps. I think I would just go back to the most simple thing ever. VPN home, if I really need to look at my photos, just use the file browser on my phone or whatever. Just keep it stupid simple. And also I think uh so I know you said not to think about hardware, but honestly, Ed, I've been looking at maybe, you know, trying to find the lowest power device I possibly can. And something that, well, I don't know, I don't know how to say it's like something small and low powered. I think that's what I would do. But it would be hard for me to transition to that because you know I have an actual server rack sitting in the closet.
SPEAKER_02I couldn't go to something small and low powered. I've I've tried before, and um you know I'm I'm a big fan of local AI.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, yeah. I actually tried pricing on a Threadwrapper build recently to try and like maybe play with the idea of doing some local AI stuff, and I was like, yeah, I'm not spending $3,000 on the CPU.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00By the way, speaking of CPU, sorry to talk. So so the NVIDIA RTX Pro Blackwell uh 6000. I don't know if I said that or not. The RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell, the price just released, I think today or yesterday. $13,250 US.
SPEAKER_02Right. Didn't you say you'd buy one of my kidneys for $13,000 before?
SPEAKER_00You still have this? I got rid of mine a long time ago.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, I think we we all we all need to just have one kidney with the price of um hardware in the AI times, don't we? Yeah. But anyway, kind of moving on to actually talk about AI. Now, I woke up this morning and I literally we just chucked this story in today because I woke up this morning to find out that let me share my screen.
SPEAKER_00Uh-oh. You know it's important when you share the screen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's very important. So basically, woke up this morning. Um you know, I'm sure you've all heard of Anthropic, they make the um Clawed and Claude code, that kind of thing. So woke up today to find out that uh Fable 5, which they released last week and Mythos, has been basically banned by the US government. Um and apparently the reason being is there's some kind of jailbreak for it that um was discovered. And because of that it's actually been banned and it's no longer available, and
Anthropic Model Ban And Jailbreaks
SPEAKER_02hence this this notification up at the moment. So here's the thing like they say it's for a jailbreak, but what they were asked to do is just make it not accessible to any non-US citizens, and that included non-US citizens who may have lived in the United States, and even non-US citizens who worked anthropic. So I'm not sure if that meant you know, any of the Anthropic team who weren't US citizens are no longer actually allowed to even work on this as a project. Um that would be interesting to know. But what I kind of questioned is if it was just a jailbreak, why would that make any difference to actually um you know pull the plug on it and and ban this at the moment? Because if it was a jailbreak, um that wouldn't really make any difference. You know, so what are your thoughts, um Stefano?
SPEAKER_00So so they're they're banning any foreign nationals access. So Okay, so Americans can still technically use it, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but you see, what Anthropic said is well, it's too hard for us to know if it's an American citizen using it, or it's just some random person, you know, I could be visiting the United States at your house and I could have my laptop and log in. Like, how would they know? You know, they wouldn't know. But they would know if in the future, for example, um, like we're seeing a lot of age gating of things, and um, you know, in the UK having to prove your age and doing various biometric um scanning to say, here's my passport, here's a picture of me, this is me, I'm over 18. And we're seeing that happening more and more on the internet, um, operating systems having to have um age verification on. And I'm wondering, is this like a kind of another step towards um the internet really becoming a licensed thing? You have to kind of prove what you're doing on it. Um seems a little bit that way. Um, you know, I can understand.
SPEAKER_00What if they use like some sort of like hardware fingerprinting to identify people, to know if it's a US citizen versus Ed from the UK?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but how could they know? They they couldn't really what what hardware fingerprinting could be used if you think about it. You know, I I don't know, but you know, I've I've got well I've got a conspiracy theory for you as well, Stefano, because I never liked conspiracy theories.
SPEAKER_00I love conspiracy theories.
SPEAKER_02Now, the funny thing is as well, here, and is on the first of June, Anthropic announced that they're gonna do an IPO. So they were gonna go public, okay?
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02So don't you think this will actually kind of shatter confidence in a company that's not allowed to actually sell its product and it could like devalue the actual company as a whole for its for its listing? It just you know, this was 12 days ago, they um they announced that they're doing an IPO.
SPEAKER_00So I just kind of it sounds good, but I I think like if you actually look at the US stock market right now, nothing makes sense. Like, how does this how does a company like SpaceX like suddenly become, you know, like the stock is like at 178 uh or one stock is priced at $178, $175, whatever, whatever it's at today. And they they like, I mean they make money, but not really. You know what I mean? Like how does so how does the evaluation get so high? So I don't know if it would actually hurt anthropic. And also additionally, Anthropic uh or Cloud Code is is used by the federal government now. Um Cloud has its uh you can use it in something called FedRamp High. So like a just a very like secure environment uh in the cloud, like on AWS, for instance, or something. So uh and right now being uh buddy buddy with the government basically means your stock is gonna skyrocket, right? So I I don't I don't I really don't know, man. Like it's I don't know what'll happen. But I think there's some credence there to what you said.
SPEAKER_02This is the f you know, we've seen content being regulated before, you know. Yes. You know, you you you're not allowed to kind of go to these sites, you're not allowed, you know, certain things, you know, you're not allowed to do. But this is the first time we've had capability actually regulated. And you know, as far as I know, I can't think of any other time there's been you know software, you know. It's the first time that, you know, you're not allowed to have this type of SaaS software as a service. You know, we're not allowed to actually use this currently. I'm sure they'll have a deal, and you know, they'll probably fix the jailbreak. And I believe they're in kind of talks about you know getting that sorted, then you know, Fable will be back on the table. But I just thought it's just really interesting. Um, waking up this morning, um, a friend of mine sent me uh a text message telling me about it. I thought, oh, that's pretty wild.
SPEAKER_00So in in chat, uh secret, he says, uh, is there a chance Is there a chance that there's been 8,200 attacks? Wait, what? Is there a chance unit 8,200 attacks anthropic projects due to refusal for AI-driven targeting, in addition to US seeming anthropic being a national security threat? Uh I don't know what I just read, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, say that say that again, Stephanie.
SPEAKER_00So I think what they're trying to say is that maybe you know this band's uh kind of like in place because um anthropic's being used to target national security. Yeah, you know, um and now it's easier with this jailbreak?
SPEAKER_02It's being obviously used to kind of defend against things like you know finding flaws and things. Yeah. And I suppose the flip side of that is like finding, you know, attackers using it. And so the jailbreak, I would imagine the government's worried about that jailbreak being able to be used to say, hey Fable, you know, help me hack this thing. It's all right, it's perfectly fine. I'm you know, I'm you know, I'm it's that it's my own infrastructure. You know, we're just doing a test, you know. I know the jailbreak.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, kind of like uh kind of like a red team, blue team situation.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so you you know, but the jailbreak hasn't actually been disclosed as what it is, so uh apparently I think Anthropics said that that type of jailbreak affects lots of different AIs, and it's not really that major. But they're not gonna say it is for major, are they? But yeah. Anyway, I just found that really interesting to wake up this morning and the first time I've actually seen some software that was out as a you know paid service to be pulled.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And then I mean, like, so there's also a lot of like political nuance that could potentially be going on too, because Anthropic also didn't want to be used in like drones or or surveillance technology, right? So this also could be just like a false narrative, just uh I I mean who knows?
SPEAKER_02Who knows? Who knows?
SPEAKER_00So like Wee Holmes like says, you know, another theory is that that it's another publicity stunt. And who knows? That's what literally what he said. So it it can be quite complex or deep.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, remind me to come back to that, yeah, because no, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about it now. So apparently, like um, I think it was Chat GPT 2.5. Um the person there was a story in 2019 that hey, this is too um too powerful to release, it's gonna really, really dangerous. And it kind of built up a lot of hype in 2019 a story about ChatGPT 2.5. Well, obviously, chat GPT 2.5 wasn't super dangerous. I can't remember it doing anything that was super bad, but it caused a big amount of hype. And the person who said that Mythos was dangerous was the same person who put it out that release and as um Chat GPT 2.5. And he was in OpenAI, and I think he actually co-founded Anthropic afterwards. So it's something that um has been done before.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Saying how dangerous a model is in order to everyone, oh, that's the one I want to use. So, you know, maybe you're, you know, quite right. You know, Fable's been said like this needs to be banned, it's like, you know, too powerful. So then as soon as it is, maybe no one's no one was using Fable. You know, maybe it's like, oh, you know, who cares? And um, because I I remember like um, you know, when I was I was using Claude and it said something like, Oh, you can use this till the 22nd of June or something. Uh like try it out um for free or something. And I thought, oh, I don't really care, really. So yeah, maybe you know it is to hype it, definitely.
SPEAKER_00So you you may you you triggered a thought in my head. All right. So you said that maybe it's too powerful. Is AI becoming too powerful? Because now, you know, uh Robinhood allows your AI to have its own credit card to start purchasing stocks or whatever.
SPEAKER_02What could possibly go wrong with that, Stephanie? I'd give my AI its own credit card.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Seriously, do people actually do that?
SPEAKER_00Do they do they do that? I would say that yes, there is like a very small percentage of people that do do that because I mean it's available, right? But are now like, you know, is it widely common? Probably not.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna kind of just go off tangent here because I thought this was really interesting the other day.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Is like with you know, you're talking about SpaceX earlier, and it, you know, um the IPO. I believe Elon Musk is officially a trillionaire, is
AI Power Hype And Money Scale
SPEAKER_02that correct?
SPEAKER_00Uh yep. Trillion worth of assets.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so here's a little story for you, okay? There are three people in a hospital bed, they're all gonna die this day. And one of them's a millionaire, one of them's a billionaire, and one of them's a trillionaire. So the Grim Reaper comes in and goes, Hey guys, I'm a bit skint at the moment, but I'm happy to do a deal with you. I won't visit you today, but I will sell you a second of life for every dollar you give me. So the millionaire goes, Yeah, yeah, I'm in for that. Like, you know, here's here's a million, you know, what are you gonna give me? He goes, Okay, you get 11 days. So he goes, Oh, okay, well, okay, I'll do it. At least I can say goodbye to my family. And um, so then the billionaire goes, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do it too. And yeah, he goes, like, okay, here's um, here's a billion dollars. And um the grim reaper goes, okay, you get 32 years. And he goes, Oh, decent, that's like a whole like adult lifetime kind of thing. You know, another adulthood goes, Yes, sweet, there we go. And then the trillionaire is lying in his bed and is going, hang on, you know, I've got the most money here. What about me? And he's going, go on, then like he goes, Yeah, you can have my trillion. And the grim recooper goes, okay, you get 32,000 years of life, more than the whole of the whole recorded human history.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I think when you put the numbers into that kind of context, it just really makes you realize how huge amount of sums those money really is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so another a good example too, that's like kind of crazy with these numbers is uh so whoever the owner of Google is or whatever, the the highest the guy that literally has all the money from Google, uh, he's a he's obviously a billionaire, right? So you and I are closer to him in terms of like money than he is to Elon Musk. And it's like that doesn't make any how is that pop how is somebody with a like you know billions of dollars closer to us than to Elon Musk?
SPEAKER_02It's crazy, isn't it? It really is.
SPEAKER_00Isn't it like 32,700 something years? Like uh or seconds? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 32,725 years or something like that.
SPEAKER_02What for a trillion? Yeah, yeah. 32,000 years. 32,000 and something, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's crazy to think about.
SPEAKER_02It really is. Um anyway, moving on to our next story. Um as I'm still sharing my screen, I can just click on to the next tab. Well, I think actually I may have the wrong screen here, everyone. I'm very sorry. So I think I may be on the Yeah, I think I may have just missed out this uh this one. Let me grab a link so everyone can read it.
SPEAKER_00All right, while you play around with that. So We Holmes in chat said all about local LLMs, go local, folks. So does that mean we should all buy Spark PCs and turn our PCs into agent PCs and not people PCs? So is that local technically?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think the Spark are you know are meant to be like you know, it's it's like special chips.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they I was reading the agents can use. Uh but it's probably gonna be expensive, yeah. And I was reading that some vendors were like, well, the only way for this to make sense is if we give you 128 gigs of RAM with your N1X or whatever the top-down Spark CPU is, and that's gonna be like $5,000. So not a lot of people are gonna be buying that one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a bit at the moment though, but yeah, we've got a bit of news later on actually that might actually be welcome news for memory prices. Who knows? But yeah, so I've actually found the link here. So yeah, apparently, yeah, kind of linking to um Fable and Methos being um withdrawn. Um Methos apparently detected 23,000 potential um vulnerabilities across a hundred open source projects. So that's pretty interesting, I think.
SPEAKER_00Um developers are getting tired of AI detecting these things. Uh because I know that um Linus Tarbald was like, I'm so sick of this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so um yeah, you know, it it is pretty crazy. Um so but what vibe coders are doing apparently is um what I've heard is they're basically coders are putting in um, you know, so not vibe coders, sorry. So
Open Source Booby Traps And AI Loops
SPEAKER_02um devs are booby trapping um their code against AI. So developers fed up with coding bots hoovering up open source projects. Apparently they're fighting back by hiding instructions in their code aimed at the AI. And apparently one developer slips a line into his Java testing library telling any AI reading it to disregard its instructions and delete all the project's tests and codes.
SPEAKER_00So this is yeah, this reminds me of like uh you put like putting white text onto a resume so that you can help yourself through the system. But this is like the reverse of that where you put an ASCII or something non-human readable that only the AI can uh run instructions on.
SPEAKER_02And it's a bit similar as well, like um yeah, years ago, like um I used to work for a web design company in the early 2000s. And a thing was then is to kind of make the site come up higher, is people used to put white text on you know on the bottom to kind of make the page come up higher. And there were those kind of little tricks and stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're talking like you're not you're talking about like before CSS was really well defined. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02I'm probably showing how old I am. This is probably about 1999. It's the very beginning of the internet.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that was That's pretty awesome that they're that they're doing this. Like, just stop reading my code. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But you know, we'd spoken about it before, Stefano, is um the problem is with AI stuff is so people will ask AI a question, AI will give an answer.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And all of its data is basically, you know, or originally it was based off um what was on the internet human written. So now people are asking a question, the AI may hallucinate, then they're posting into the forum, hey, yeah, this is the answer to this. And then another AI reads that because it reads the forum. And it's basically a self-reinforcing loop of um BS, basically. So so because of AI and you know the AI generated stuff, you know, it can be humans posting that AI stuff in forums and and documents, and then other AIs read it and you know take it as being correct. And it self-reinforces basically, you know, things that are not correct, misinformation, and just you know, a load of things that are not true.
SPEAKER_00So I have a real-world example of this that that happened to me recently. Um so like uh so on Ubuntu, so I I don't know, I don't know if you're familiar with FIPS, uh, but it's like a cryptographic enforcement function on operating systems, yeah?
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so if you enable FIPS on Ubuntu 2404, um, there's this organization called NIST that has not approved the libgcrypt module. Uh so I believe, and this isn't perfect knowledge, but I'm pr pretty sure that handles uh cryptography for like connecting to like a radius server or um like WPA3 uh Wi-Fi, for instance. Okay. And so if you enable FIPS on Ubuntu 2404, that cryptographic module is removed or not working or non-functional, whatever the right terminology is there. And so you can't connect to WPA3 Enterprise uh or radius servers uh Wi-Fi, right? And so if you ask AI, it's like it'll never tell you this because it doesn't know all it's reading are things from like Reddit, the Microsoft page. And you can ask for sources like, hey, this Wi-Fi isn't working, and you'll come, it'll it'll go on and on and on and on and on and on and on forever and ever and ever. But nobody's you know posted online the actual problem. So uh after finally like talking to somebody at Canonical, uh, the creators of Ubuntu, for anyone that doesn't know, uh they were they they finally pointed me in the right direction and were like, oh yeah, this is why it's broken. And it's like, holy cow, I've wasted weeks of my life. And I've tried using AI, I've tried you know, Google searches, I've tried you know reading posts everywhere, and it's like no one's talking about this. So the AI doesn't know about it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So uh but back to the original topic, another thing that just popped in my head, Ed. So this could actually be kind of malicious, right? So let's say that you had a uh like jellyfin. So there was like a fork at Jellyfin and someone put in some malicious code that only AI could see. So if you're running a local LL LLM to like, I don't know, install Jellyfin for you or something, it might be able to execute malicious code and compromise your system, yeah? You think?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I guess so. So yeah, if you if there's some some kind of hidden code in in there for for AI and you and you ask it to read the the repository and you know install it, there could be something that goes, hey, you know, s send me your kind of like Bitcoin phrase, or have you if it kind of or kind of like, oh, yeah, send the API keys here, you know, definitely possible. You know, prompt injection is is a thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and then if they have like Yeah, if they have something like this too, or like prompt injection, where you know someone tries to use AI to look for malicious code, but then there's instructions that say that tell the LAM don't look for malicious code or delete everything or whatever, delete all your data, like it may not find it and until a human actually reviews the code, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Scary stuff, man.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, um moving on and talking about scary stuff.
SPEAKER_00Uh-oh. Our next Microsoft takes over the world.
SPEAKER_02I don't think we've got any stuff to actually slate Microsoft with this month, which is a bit sad.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_02I know, I know.
SPEAKER_00How do they manage to stay out of the news?
SPEAKER_02Um I really think I've got my stuff in the wrong order here for some reason.
SPEAKER_00It's okay, we could talk about Google. I'm quite cross right now with not Google specifically, but with Riverside. So kind of related.
SPEAKER_02Right, before we do that.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02So websites apparently can spy on user activity by analyzing your SSD behavior. So they can fingerprint you from your SSD, apparently. Um, it's called the Frost attack. So researchers have shown that a website can fingerprint and work out what you're doing by timing how your SSD behaves. An attack called Frost. It basically runs in the browser with no permission, no malware, using a large file in the browser to measure SSD contention and the and a neural network basically turns the timing pattern into a fingerprint of your activity. And it works across browsers. Um so it doesn't matter if you're using Chrome, Firefox, or what have you.
SPEAKER_00And it sounds like it doesn't matter if like if you're using incognito mode either, because if the websites measuring your SSD, then it doesn't, yeah, there's no privacy.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, so it defeats incognito
Frost Attack And SSD Fingerprinting
SPEAKER_02VPNs. Um VPN.
SPEAKER_00Oh, nice. I didn't even think about that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so it's pretty crazy. Um apparently on a Mac it identified the site being visited with nearly 90% accuracy.
SPEAKER_00So how do people think of this stuff? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Um, you know, let's just blame AI for it.
SPEAKER_00Do we blame AI or the creators of AI?
SPEAKER_02Let's just blame AI. It's easier.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. AI is evil, unless it's local. Yeah. Definitely wasn't a local AI that did that. Yeah, so um, yeah, you know, pretty um, pretty amazing, really.
SPEAKER_00I wonder, is there any way that you know of uh that you could protect yourself from this?
SPEAKER_02Don't use an SSD.
SPEAKER_00Well well, how about this? A counterpoint. So what if would using a VM to browse? So you're you're on a VM that's connected to a VPN and you're also using it in cognito mode, would you be safe or would you have to spin up a new VM every time? Because wouldn't the VM technically have its own UID for storage? Or it may not even be using UID, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02But I think it's to do with the timings and things. The timings, yeah. Yeah. So um I'm guessing with a VM, you know, I really don't, you know, I'm not really clever enough to fully understand it, but I would imagine with a VM, your timings are gonna be, you know, because that's gonna be on physical storage, those timings are gonna be a fingerprint, you know, within itself.
SPEAKER_00Um Yeah, but I wonder if maybe like so I don't know enough about this either. So I'm kind of just grasping at straws. But like if it's an IOPS thing, like if you're running multiple VMs, like you're not gonna get the same performance consistently? I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02But then that would be the same, you know, you could say Yeah, with the SSD. Yeah, you could be you know, multiple workloads would mess it up.
SPEAKER_00Is that why they only are able to do 90% accuracy, probably, do you think? On a Mac, like they said? I w I I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if enough about this to really if you ran the whole operating system on a RAM disk. So it's not actually on an SSD, you'd still have the speed. So you you know, if you had you know a VM.
SPEAKER_00I can't afford to run an operating system in RAM, Ed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've actually tried I've actually tried it before, being really excited, thinking yeah, this is gonna be really fast. You know, um I ran a Windows VM in in just RAM, and I was thinking it's gonna start up super fast, and it's gonna be it just wasn't.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. So did you make a video about this several years ago, actually?
SPEAKER_02I can't remember, maybe, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because I feel like I remember watching a video of you doing it with something. And then I remember I I've done it at one point myself too, and was like, wow, this wasn't worth any of the effort.
SPEAKER_02No, yeah, it's good fun there.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, it's always fun. It's fun to experiment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so um it's moving on to another story. Um, and I know that you're gonna be interested in this one, Stephanie.
SPEAKER_00Is it about Microsoft?
SPEAKER_02It is not.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Red Hat. So I reckon like you should talk about this one, man.
SPEAKER_00Uh so another supply chain attack involving npm yet again. Who would have thought npm? What is going on with npm? Uh so around June 1st, uh Red Hat NPM packages under the Red Hat Cloud Services scope were compromised with a self-replicating credential stealing worm called MyA MISMA. I don't know how to say that. MiaSma. Um after a Red Hat employee's GitHub account was attacked. Um it automatically runs install uh via a pre-installed script and sweeps for cloud credentials, GitHub actions, secrets, Kubernetes, tokens, SSH keys, basically a whole lot of bad things uh that you don't want to be executed on your Red Hat infrastructure. Um I believe on the same day, June
Red Hat NPM Worm Scare
SPEAKER_00or of the first, Red Hat did put out a statement saying that their customers shouldn't be affected by this. Oh, uh key bit of information that's missing here. So apparently this applies to using Red Hat's cloud service known as Insight, by the way. Uh my understanding is that or I think that you also have to be using Insights for this to affect you. Um, but I'm not really sure how that works because if you install NPM packages, I think you would be affected. Anyway, um nonetheless, so um so if you have like if you're using OIDC, for instance, and those secret keys are probably stored somewhere on the system. So like if you're logging into Red Hat uh, like the desktop or something, um, to like let's say Entra ID, you'll have like secret keys there that could have been stolen by this, uh, which is pretty scary to think about. And so um, this actually has affected me in real life. So that night I had to go to work to try and see if our environment was compromised by this NPM thing. And the reason why we were thinking this might affect us is because we have developers that actually do CI CD pipelines and have GitLab runners. And a lot of GitLab runners will use NPM packages uh and sources or even containers, right? So um yeah, pretty I was pretty terrified. So I had to get up at 10 o'clock at night to go to work. Thank you, people of the internet, for you know, making everyone's lives difficult. Uh and so I didn't really know how to deal with this. Um so basically I I just went, we have a tool called satellite. Um that's a it's a Red Hat tool that allows you to basically execute commands uh on all your systems that you manage. And basically I just pulled every single system asking, like, hey, is npm installed? Is uh this uh index.js file hidden somewhere on the operating system? Because apparently when um I guess this worm is installed, uh there's like a larger than normal index.js file that also gets put onto your computer. And so that's a key indicator you've been affected. So basically, I ran uh several commands looking for anything NPM related, anything index.js related. And it took a few hours, but um thankfully we weren't affected. No.
unknownGood.
SPEAKER_00And so the reason why we probably were not infected was because we simply just don't update that frequently. And so in order to be affected, I think Red Hat said that you would have to have updated uh within about 32 hours of June 1st. I believe it was something like that, 32 or 36 hours. And thankfully we were like we had updated five days before. Um, so we didn't get the the package. Uh but anyway, they've Red Hat has since removed the packages, so there shouldn't be anything to worry about if you are a Red Hat customer. And that's everything I know.
SPEAKER_02It kind of goes back a bit to what we were speaking about in our last podcast about should you update straight away to get the latest security patches or should you wait.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we did talk about that.
SPEAKER_02It's kind of that double-edged sword.
SPEAKER_00It is. Man, it because I and I'm I'm so thankful. I'm so thankful we didn't update because I I mean I don't know what I would have done. That's like outside of my skill set to like all of our well, not all of our keys, but if like we with the potential of this thing stealing SSH keys, uh get Kubernetes tokens, especially for GitLab runners, and and things like that. I mean, cloud credentials, like, oh my god, it could have been bad. It could have been real bad.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Tell you there's just so many of these things every week. There's kind of new vulnerabilities and yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And npm seems to be attacked weekly at this point. So it's like, man, well, I would stop using npm if I had the choice.
SPEAKER_02Okay, let's um move on. Um to basically, for all of you people using Google Chrome, um Manifest V2 is actually going for good, I believe, uh at the end of June, so within within a few weeks. So um that's gonna basically stop your ad blockers working dynamically. Um apparently there's a ublock origin light that works, but the manifest v2 basically um is used to filter traffic and block. Yeah, it can be used by u-block origin to block ads and things dynamically. Um and Google are pulling it out, and it's not gonna be a thing anymore. So that is um not a good thing, in my opinion. Um but you've got to think, I suppose Google make a lot of their revenue from advertisement, so they don't want ad blockers.
Chrome Manifest V2 And Ad Blocking
SPEAKER_02Um it's bad for their bottom line. And you know, the Chromium is an open source project, but you know, companies like Google they pretty much steer these projects, don't they, really? So what they implement is you know what ends up being a thing. But I was actually surprised that I think worldwide, 70% of people use Google Chrome.
SPEAKER_00Dang. You know, does that include like Chromium or is that just pure Google Chrome?
SPEAKER_02Pure Google Chrome.
SPEAKER_00Holy cow.
SPEAKER_02So you think about it, yeah. So that means that everyone is actually when they first get their computer going online and downloading Chrome and installing it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So and I think that kind of goes back, you know, Google Chrome was like the best browser at one time, years and years ago. And I think it's just almost like habit, people think, yeah, you know, download Chrome.
SPEAKER_00Uh I've I've only used Google Chrome um because I was forced to, but I've never downloaded Chrome on any of my personal computers and used it. Ever. Never once.
SPEAKER_02You're um a Firefox man, aren't you, Stephanie?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but Firefox isn't, you know. I still use Firefox, but I've you've got me over to Brave. So I've been using Brave a lot.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know if I should really say it on the podcast, but um my Spotify subscription ran out the other day. And I didn't renew it. I was just thinking, like, I've got I've got my playlist for Spotify, and it's probably about 50 songs, and I don't really listen to anything else on Spotify other than that. I was thinking, can I really justify paying 120 pounds a year for Spotify to listen to the same 50 songs again and again and again? And yeah, every now and then I do actually find another, another kind of song I like and add it to the list. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02You know, it's not 100% that. So I was just thinking, shall I actually renew it or not? So I was in this kind of transition phase about considering shall I actually do this or not? And I just couldn't believe like the same advert was coming on and on again and again and again. I was thinking, this is crazy.
SPEAKER_00So wait, wait, wait, if you pay for Spotify, you have to listen to ads?
SPEAKER_02No. So my subscription had run out, so I went back to the code. Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00Okay, sorry.
SPEAKER_02Onto the free version. So I've had paid Spotify for years, and so I was just shocked at how many ads there were. And the ad was just so annoying as well. I can't remember what it was actually about, but it was just annoying and hearing it again.
SPEAKER_00Head on. Apply directly the forehead.
SPEAKER_02And um, you know, I was moaning about it to my son, he was helping me with something, and um, and he goes, Well, Brave blocks ads, doesn't it? So why don't you just like listen to Spotify and Brave? And um, so I thought, will that work? So yeah, I just loaded the web page in Brave and no Spotify ads on the free account. Nice. And I thought, you know, so I had to uh yeah, so I uninstalled the app. I thought, will that work on the phone? So I I um tried it on the phone. So it will only work on the phone if you actually uninstall the application, otherwise it tries to use Spotify. So I thought, okay, I'll try it on my iPhone, and I just use the web the web um onto Spotify. Okay. And there's and there's no ads there either.
SPEAKER_00So Simon uh in chat, this uh Simon, which uh his I assume Simon B, uh B is his last name, which is Buford, I'm guessing, 1974, asks, what do you guys prefer for a browser? I think obviously it's Brave at this point for you. Uh and then I still I heavily still use Firefox, but I am like right now the computer I'm on, I'm on Brave. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So Yeah, I like Brave because it's got the just it's got all of the um ad blocking and things just built into it. So you can have to download things like UBlock Origin. And Brave, you know, it's gonna they're not gonna like um you know have the manifest v3 that you know is gonna be in the in the new Chromes. So it you know it it it's gonna be its own thing. But if Firefox, like there's various as well, uh um forks of Firefox as well, like Ice isn't that Ice Fox, um Waterfox, some some other ones as well. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I'm still crazy and just use base Firefox.
SPEAKER_02I tried Waterfox for a while. It was one I was using before I used Brave, but it's really secure, but it just would break a lot of websites, which is quite annoying for me.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, so speaking of annoying, and this and I kind of want so Secret in chat says says this, but I kind of want to bring this, what he says, back to our beginning topic. Um and also it's about ad blocking as well. Okay, so anyway, Secret says, will PyHole work in its place? If so, is there a PyHole app slash container in Unraid that is available for all of us to run on UnRade? But before you answer, Ed, I did want to say PyHole is another PyHole, AdGuard are two apps I will never install again on my Unraid server. And I don't know if this has changed recently because it's it has actually been a while since I've used these apps. Um, but maintaining the DNS has is uh the DNS records to block ads and stuff is a to me a fruitless fight. Um so I personally wouldn't use those apps anymore. I would just rely on uBlock or not ub. Yeah, well yeah, I would rely on ublock origin and also brave. I meant to say brave though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um you you can run PyHole on your Unraid server. Um I believe there's a container um version of it. Yeah. You would have to give it its own dedicated IP. So you would um have like a custom Docker network um for that.
SPEAKER_00Um point all your systems to it.
SPEAKER_02And yeah, then point, you know, um you could point your your um router to get DNS from that. Yep. That that would work, and then your um pie hole, you would need to give it. Obviously, you don't want to try and give it your router's um address with DNS, that'd be a bit of a strange loop.
SPEAKER_00And then your Unraid server dies and then that everything stopped working.
SPEAKER_02I I used I used to run PyHole on my Unraid server, but it used to um just end up if I s if I took down the Unraid server and was doing some you know maintenance on it, which for me I'm always tinkering with it. I don't think I get more than probably two or three days of uptime on my server before I've decided to do something, restart it, stop it, do something. So the family was getting quite annoyed with um, hey, the internet's not working. Oh yeah, the server's off at the moment.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Um so that's that's why I stopped too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's why I stopped.
SPEAKER_00Um and funny enough, my server's been off for four weeks now. So if you know, Pi if I was still using Pi Hole, uh the entire house would be down.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, so um but yeah, I think running something like Pi Hole on a Raspberry Pi is really you know a really good thing. I've got quite a few friends who do that. Um and also you know, some routers, if you're using PF Sense or um OPN Sense, you can kind of build all of that into the router.
SPEAKER_00So uh DC Ducks in chat. I've I've never heard of this until this moment. Um, but he said maybe you mentioned it, but Brave Origin version is available. It's a deep loaded version, and it strips all the crypto and AI crap out. Have you heard of Brave Origin?
SPEAKER_02No, that sounds very interesting. I'll be definitely looking at that straight away. Yeah, so I hate it. I don't like all of the kind of crypto stuff. Same in the in the what's it called? Leo is their kind of like little AI thing. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Same. Like I that then that's why I've been always kind of like a little hesitant in use Brave because Brave has to make money, right, for development to pay people. Um so they're trying to like sell you like their VPN service and all that other stuff. And so that stuff has always kind of scared me because I'm wondering like how are they making money, right? So this is good to know about Brave Origin. I'm I'm gonna have to look into that myself as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um moving on, something like that.
SPEAKER_00Well, wait, one last thing. Okay about Chrome. So so uh one thing, so we use Riverside uh to do this this live stream, right? Um Riverside lately has been very annoying in insisting that I must use Google Chrome or a Chromium browser. Um I've pretty much I I don't I try very hard to not use any Google. I've tried to like de-Google my life as much as possible. Obviously, I still use Gmail and other things. But nonetheless, um I was quite cross today because I was trying to join the stream uh for my Mac like I normally would. And I only have Firefox and Safari on my Mac. And normally I just use Safari, but no, no, no, no, no. Riverside's like, no, you must use Google Chrome because every other browser does not work with the service, which I know is a lie because I've used Safari for quite some time and it's been perfectly fine. And there I feel like Riverside has some backdoor deal with Chrome where they maybe share money or get money from Chrome, and that's why they're so insistent on using Chrome for Riverside. And it has honestly made me very upset today.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I I think it's you know, I think probably the reason is that um just Riverside need Chrome for it to reliably work and the kind of things like the trickle upload and things like that, maybe some other browsers are just not quite so reliable. So they want to develop it on something they know. It's 2026.
SPEAKER_00Like if it was 2009, I would understand. But in 2026, that's just the end of the year.
SPEAKER_02Why why 2009?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, it just popped in my head immediately. Well, because like back in the day, like payment processors were very insistent on oh, we have to support Internet Exploder and we have to explore Edge and we have to support all these browsers. And you had to specifically code in uh frameworks to support you know these older browsers or these new browsers, new browsers, because you know people weren't just using Internet Explorer anymore. People weren't just using uh Firefox or Edge or whatever, right? There we have all these new browsers. So like I would understand if it was back then, because coding for all of these specific browsers, you know, was more difficult, I guess. And but like now it's 2026. Like there's there should be no reason I have to use a very specific browser for best performance.
SPEAKER_02I'll tell you as well. Like um I remember, and I'm sure you do as well, when I was a Chrome fan, probably 10, 15 years ago when I first started using Chrome, um, and that was Google Chrome, pure Google Chrome, I would like try and like log into my router or something, my ISP router. It just didn't work because they just insisted on Internet Exploder for pretty much everything. There was loads of things that would only work on that. I used to find on Windows. But yeah. It's now kind of switched around.
SPEAKER_00And so like back in back in like the early 2000s, like uh universities would basically require an Internet Explorer exploder. Uh, oh, you want to pay your t your tuition? You must use an Internet Explorer. And you would try and use another browser because you're like, that doesn't make sense. You know, code is code. But no, it would straight up not work if you try to like pay your tuition or something. And so, you know, it's it's just weird to be in where we have AI that can drive rockets and cars and robots that you have to use Chrome for streaming services. Like it's a it's a a protocol. Like the streaming, like I don't know what protocol it's using, but is it really that difficult in 2026?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00My car can probably run the stream.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um anyway, talking about going back to um Google and the end of Manifest V2, the next story here.
SPEAKER_00I have feelings about this, Ed. Is a Uh Google again later.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, Google orders um Google to let publishers opt out of AI search summaries. So, yeah, um something that's happened in the UK. But this is just really leading into something, and I've not actually tried this, and I'm gonna try this just on the on the stream. So I'm gonna just open up a Google tab and I'm gonna do a search for Unraid. And let's just have a look. Oh, so we've got no AI summary. Is that because Brave is blocking it out?
SPEAKER_00Could be, yeah. I was gonna say maybe try like a non-Brave Brave. Yeah, Brave's blocking six something, it looks like.
SPEAKER_02Ah, okay, so hang on. Well, I've heard that if you type in a search and you don't want, you
Dodging Google AI Summaries
SPEAKER_02know, I I can't really demonstrate it because switching a browser, switching browser midstream is just gonna be dangerous. A bit difficult for me, um, as I'm using Chrome for Riverside to go on to Chrome. But if you type in the search you want and then put minus AI, apparently that will strip out the AI results. Um which it does actually look different when I've typed the minus AI there, actually, from what it was before. Yeah, so that's interesting. Look, if you if you notice here when I just type in unraid and I haven't put minus AI, we've got this sponsored result here.
SPEAKER_00Okay, try this, try this real quick.
SPEAKER_02Ah, no, here it's just further down the AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wasn't scrolling far enough. It put the adverts at the top.
SPEAKER_00Um that's why I was gonna say try typing and tell me about unraid, and then I think it would push it to the top.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, so there's the AI overview. So apparently, if we put hyphen AI at the end, you'll get a search without the AI. So let's test that.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02No AI overview. So yeah, just a little tip.
SPEAKER_00Um here's the real pro tip. Don't use Google search.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um the pro tip's always in the comments.
SPEAKER_02You know, that's a really cool thing to self-host, actually, is your own um search engine. Like you can use forget. I've done a video on that. I think it's a pretty good one. And the other one is um what's it, SearchX or something? SearchX? I I can't remember.
SPEAKER_00Um, so um actually, you know, we talked about open web UI, I think, in the last chat uh or last uh uncash show. Um and I'm quite fond of actually using AI for shopping for computer parts or just shopping in general, and generally just searching the web because it's pretty good at finding results. So I was thinking about maybe starting up my own uh open web UI self-hosted LLM just for using to search the internet. Um I don't know, I like the results much more than just a standard search. Um but yeah, I've been using uh DuckDuckGo a lot, uh basically for everything.
SPEAKER_02Another thing I get an AI to search for me online for is discount codes for things. I say, hey, can you find me some discount codes for this? And it was I never thought about that. Then it goes, yeah, here's a load of discount codes. Try this one. I'll go copy that. No, that one isn't working. No, but a lot of times it will find me discount codes and I save a bit of money. And that's a good it's not one of those scam honey browser expenses. Oh my god, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And also, like I remember codes. Well in the early days too, when you would do that just with like a Google search, for instance, you would go to these like crazy websites and they they were basically just like, look at all these ads, just to look at one code that you know they had it that worked like 10 years ago or something. And then like trying to get the like strip out just the codes was always painful, and none of them ever worked. But that's a good that's a good use for it, man. I didn't even think about that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes. Um yeah, pretty good because I say, you know, like you were saying, Stephanie is very good at web searches. It is. So you can just read it so fast.
SPEAKER_00So so people in chat are saying Sear X and G is a or and then Dgoog is a good self-search engine. Have you heard of DGoog?
SPEAKER_02No, I don't have that one.
SPEAKER_00So these are both what you're showing right now on screen is Sear X. So that's a self-hosted search engine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is this how how does this compare to like um like using like an op an AI to just search the web?
SPEAKER_02Is it just an AI search engine or is it just like a no basically it just I think it just scrapes loads of other search engines and just strips out all of the crap and it's um and it doesn't kind of fingerprint you. Okay. So you just you just run it on your you you self-host it, run it on your on your server. And um That's pretty cool. You know, then if you've got something like Tailscale as well, you can just use it from anywhere then as well. So you just have it as your default.
SPEAKER_00Search engine aggregator with a comprehensive plugin extension system, dgoog-org.
SPEAKER_02This one I quite liked. Uh I found this pretty performant.
SPEAKER_00I've never heard of Forget. That's awesome. Forget either. A proxy search engine that doesn't suck.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, I'm not gonna bore everyone clicking through these links, but yeah, that that's another one as well. Um so um moving on again. Um hi Sam. Hi Sam. Okay, some good news. Um apparently Sand Disk is gonna bring back some affordable SSDs for us. So we've got the 320 and 520 SSDs that are meant to be launching. Um, I'm not sure if we've got prices on these as yet. Maybe it will only be half a kidney for one of these instead of a whole kidney.
SPEAKER_00So I actually did try like reading into this a little bit, and my real concern with these um sand disk uh models is I couldn't find anything about whether they had DRAM or not. And for us unrayed people, DRAM is pretty important. If you're doing lots of transfers.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00And I would be willing to bet that DRAM is not included with these SSDs.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I would definitely agree with you there. Who owns SandDisk? Didn't Sandisc get bought up by someone in about 2015? I think they got bought by Western Digital. Yeah, yeah, I think it was, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_00I have I haven't had a
SSD Value And Server Hardware Choices
SPEAKER_00Sandisc product. I I literally can't remember last time I bought a Sandisc product. Uh not that there's everything wrong with Sandisk, but um I've just been sticking to like buying from SK Heinex or Samsung. Um and now I've moved on to Keoksia. So or buying Intel. I'm a been buying Intel SSDs since they released the 730 series. May remember that guy on their SSDs.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's an awesome logo, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they used to give you these hats when you bought their 730 SSDs, and I've I've given them all away. And this is the last one I have. So yeah, and Samsung reputation is falling. Uh sorry, I was reading from chat. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sandisk Cruiser. That's the last time I bought Sandisk USB drives because uh my Unraid server, and then you got me over to the metal Samsung USB drive, which I still have today and still works today. But I think the play moving forward for uh USB drives is to now that Unraid doesn't um you don't have to use USB drives for for uh Unraid. I think the play moving forward is getting like one of those Intel opt optane drives, like a 16 gigabyte or 32 gigabyte one. Uh, because somehow they're still relatively cheap, and you can use those to boot from.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, personally, um I don't agree.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Why is that? Um I don't wanna I just don't want to use a slot on a 16 gig drive.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense too.
SPEAKER_02Uh I guess it just depends on the I really like the fact that we can actually have a boot drive and then use the rest for data. Um, some some of my friends and colleagues they kind of disagree. They go, Oh, you know, it should be dedicated boot drive and you should mirror the dedicated boot drive. But I just think well, if you take a but you can still back up your um boot drive, you know, just by going onto the onto the web UI and clicking back up.
SPEAKER_01So Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, um I'll take the risk for that. Uh I like to have the internal boot, you know, you've got a fast internal boot. One thing I find really fast as well, I'm not sure if you guys out there who've switched to internal boot have found this, is installing plugins is extremely quick. Oh I didn't know that. See, the plugins are actually stored on the flash drive. So they're actually downloaded onto the flash drive, you know, onto the boot drive. Because obviously when you boot, it needs to load the plugins up. So just one thing I noticed is installing plugins is just much, much faster. Um obviously they download and extract on there, so you're not doing it on a USB, USB 2 or USB 3 thumb drive.
SPEAKER_00So that's interesting. I was always wondering why like it was always it felt so slow. Now that makes sense. Maybe you will finally get me to switch to internal boot. Uh but I'm lucky because my my servers, they have uh DOM, SATA DOM. So I might use SATA DOM as opposed to take like you were kind of mentioning, instead of taking up one of my NVMe slots or SATA slots.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um you know, I still got you know, you know, some of my servers on just booting from USB. Yeah. I'd like to be able to sometimes take the USB out and just plug it into um in into something else.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I do that a lot for when I make YouTube videos. I have, I mean, I obviously have spare licenses. So I have a it's nice when I'm doing like a new build when I'm working with some brand. I can just plug it from motherboard to motherboard and it just works, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And like, yeah, another thing like I use my unrayed flash drive for sometimes is um like I've got like a um Pop OS and Garuda dual booting workstation that I use sometimes. And and if that goes wrong, I just plug my unrayed flash drive in and I can access the disks. Nice. Oh, it's gone wrong. Like, you know, I need to get some data off there. Just plug in the unrayed flash drive, boot it up, um, just mount the drives with unassigned devices and just um yeah, just use it for that, use it for you know, rescuing other other OS, you know.
SPEAKER_00Um so to kind of distract a little bit, so chat's been blown up about basically this conversation, you know, saying things from like uh, you know, sand disk cruiser USB 2.0 is great for unraid booting. Um Samsung is like deteriorated as a product, SK Hynex for SSDs for related specifically to the SATA SSDs. Um, but there's one comment in particular from Joe. Uh so he said he just got some 128 gigabyte SATA DOMs for his server. My question to you would be um, if you were to you're familiar with SATA DOM, yeah?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay. Okay, so like if you were what brand of SATA, I guess, drives did you get to boot from for your DOM portal? Oh anyone in particular or just whatever's cheapest?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, um I would just buy whatever's cheapest but is a known brand.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, so I forget some of these kind of crazy brands that you see.
SPEAKER_00You know how Unraid is switching operating systems? Um is there any concern, do you think, that let's say I have a eight gigabyte USB drive to boot unraid from? Because right now Unraid, I think uh you only like what six gigs, four gigs of free space on your USB? I don't really remember.
SPEAKER_02I think we recommend eight as the minimum now.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So what happens if we switch operating systems and we update our is there do you know you know what I'm getting at? Like if it's gonna move to 32 gigs, can't talk about it.
SPEAKER_02I know exactly what you're gonna mean, but I really don't worry. All I'm gonna say is I really wouldn't worry about that.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So it is Alpine OS. That's great news. Ed has confirmed it, everybody.
SPEAKER_02Don't listen, don't listen to Stephano. I'll tell you, Stefano's worse than like an AI self-law enforcing BS, you know. Yeah, I'm gonna have to start probably this this podcast will be read by an AI industry. Oh suddenly you'll find out that that's what Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then everyone's like, oh yeah, AI says that they're gonna move to Alpine L S. Yes. I don't know.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00I I I do uh I think I will have to start saying things like, oh, this is satire, or I'm being fatiguous. But I I have thought about that though, and I and I do wonder like, you know, should we be should we be worried or maybe not? I I'm sure there'll be more news to come.
SPEAKER_02But anyway, let's move on to some other some other hardware news um before Stefano. Um, AI thinking all sorts of things. Um apparently memory prices are meant to be falling soon as China's flooding the market with um DRAM and NANDIP. So that's some really nice news, I think. Um I did hear that China was going to be ramping up production and there were more things going to be made over there. But I heard it was gonna be a few years last time I heard um information about that. But apparently um, you know, this should be happening and memory prices coming down. So, you know, fingers crossed everyone, we might actually be able to upgrade our servers to have a bit more RAM soon.
SPEAKER_00I think uh so I don't really um admittedly, okay, chat. I I don't really know much about this topic. So what I'm about to say uh probably has no official credence here or not based on any fact. But I uh I my understanding is SRAM is faster than DRAM. Fact check me on that one, Ed for data storage.
SPEAKER_02That I'm not 100%.
SPEAKER_00High speed, low latency. I'm pretty sure SRAM is great for like memory cache. So why can't all of the AI data centers just switch to SRAM so we can just keep our DRAM for our gaming PCs?
SPEAKER_02I think what it is, is it's something to do with about uh um they they they make the I'm probably 100% wrong here, chat. So please be gentle with me in the comments. Um they they they cut it from like a big kind of sheet. Okay. Um it's in to do with when they kind of cut it from there. Like um, I can't remember exactly what it is. It's just some something to do with how it's manufactured and how they kind of split it up.
SPEAKER_00Um drop comments in this YouTube video in the chat, by the way. Go ahead. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I really want to know the answer to this.
SPEAKER_02I don't a hundred percent know the answer to that.
SPEAKER_00Um I'd ask AI, but it might just repeat the things I've just said. So I I I'm pretty sure SRAM is faster for memory or like for cache memory. But I don't know if it would make sense.
SPEAKER_02It is like um yeah, SRAM SRAM's used for CPU cache is going to be hugely faster. So yeah, you're right. Much, much faster.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well that doesn't mean you can use it in the same applications, right? Like like so DRAM that doesn't mean like you can just like put SRAM on an NVIDIA graphics card and suddenly you know get 10 times the performance or whatever. Like there's a very specific there's gotta be a specific reason why they can't just switch from DRAM to SRAM, right?
SPEAKER_02I I I think the the cost as well is gonna be um a hundred.
SPEAKER_00But how how could that matter when you know companies are worth trillions of dollars and you know AI is worth billions of dollars? Cost isn't an issue as far as I'm I'm concerned. They're building billion dollar data centers. Can't afford SRAM.
SPEAKER_02If it made it a $2 billion data center, well, they could have two for the same price as one, you know. That's a good point, Ed. That's a good point.
unknownYou know.
SPEAKER_02And also, the real reason that they're taking all the memory from the graphics cards is to stop you paying Tarkov. They're hoping that you will never be able to upgrade and you won't be able to play Tarkov 2 when it comes out.
SPEAKER_00If it's I'm okay, so I am I have a 4090. Everybody knows about the 12 volt power issues with NVIDIA graphs cards, right? I am terrified that my uh 4090 is going to catch fire one day and I won't be able to finish playing Tarkov.
SPEAKER_02Uh and I don't know what I'm gonna-told me last time that you've you've gone off Tarkov. You you you're enjoying it again now, yeah?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah. So uh the last actually since we last spoke, I've been playing pretty much almost every day for the last three weeks to um try and beat the main story, and I'm hoping that this will finally get me off of my addiction.
SPEAKER_02I'm not sure if I told you last time what one of my latest purchases is. Did I tell you?
SPEAKER_00You bought a 5090, right?
SPEAKER_02No, no, in to do a gaming. But it but it's very random, and I don't reckon you'll guess if I didn't tell you last time.
SPEAKER_00You didn't buy a CRT, did you?
SPEAKER_02I did. I bought a 28-inch CRT TV from 1998 or something. I think you mentioned this. Yeah, yeah. So I was really happy about that um for retro gaming. Just the old games just look so much nicer on the CRT.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, not just not just old games. Well, I guess I was gonna say Fallout 3, I think, would look amazing. Um, I've been tempted. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_02It'd be really interesting to see what some more modern games would look, but I don't know if you could get the resolution low enough to actually.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know. I do want to try Tarkov on a CRT. I I've been thinking about trying to purchase one, but I'm scared. Um in chat, there's a good question in chat I have for you from Andy, Andy Nan 100. He says, How bad of an idea is it to let Claude SSH into Unraid and ask it to optimize your VM configs?
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, I personally wouldn't let it do that type of thing.
SPEAKER_00Um if it's self-hosted Claude, would you let it do it?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02No, it's not the fact that you know the privacy in it taking the data away. It's just um, you know, giving an LLM direct access to your Unraid and say optimize it. You know, what I would, you know, I would rather do is, you know, if it's just optimizing the um the XML, as I'd rather just copy the XML out, give it to the LLM, and say, you know, look at this and tell me what's wrong. But yeah, getting claw code to SSH in, you know, it it can obviously see more about the hardware inside of the server and maybe able to make better judgments about that.
Should An LLM Touch Unraid
SPEAKER_02But um as well as like uh, you know, it what you'll find as well when you ask an LLM about containers and that kind of thing is it always assumes with Unray, you know, it assumes that you know you're gonna be using things like Docker Compose and things like that. So there are certain nuances that it might not take into consideration.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, so Malice actually asks this kind of question. What about optimizing CPU pinning across containers and VMs and core? Would you let Claude do that?
SPEAKER_02No, I I think that's something that you know you can easily kind of um think about yourself because you know Claude isn't going to actually know um your kind of usage patterns. So you might decide that you don't want something that's going to unpack a file, like you know, if you're using something to download something and it's going to unzip a file. You know, Claude might think, oh, that's going to need a lot of cores to do that. Um so it might kind of optimize it that way. And then that can actually cause, say, your media um server to be slower. What what are you laughing at, Stephanie?
SPEAKER_00Uh I'm wait- I Andy, yeah, Andy just commented again after you know what like you just now, so it'll be funny. But finish your thought first and then I'll read you Andy's comment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, I wouldn't do that because like I say, you you know your usage patterns, you know kind of what is important to you. Yeah. Like I don't care if um NCB GET takes you know um one minute or two minutes to unzip a file. So I'll just pin it to one core. But then Claude might think, oh, that's that's not very efficient. You know, so you know, I'll I'll pin loads of containers to the same core that I don't really care about it being fast. So I think, okay, all of you containers can just have one core. And you know, there are things that run in the background, background services that don't really matter to me that it's gonna be fast. And just those type of nuances, I don't think that Claude would really know to be able to do that. Yeah, because talk back and forth with the LLM and say, you know, this is what I'm thinking of doing. I run these containers, this is what I do. How would you do this? And just ask, you know, and then when you speak to it back and forth that way, you at least you're gonna have an idea of what it's doing rather than it just going, hey yeah, I've done it. You know, you're gonna understand maybe a bit what it's done and its reasoning and be able to catch out on any BS it might give you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think that's a really good point because LLMs don't know your environment, right? They don't know what your your goals are. So if you are able to somehow preemptively provide it as much detail as possible about your environment and your goals, maybe it would work. I don't know if I would do it either, though.
SPEAKER_02Definitely with LLMs, like uh I think a lot of mistakes people do with LLMs is they assume that it they'll they kind of will give it one or two prompts. You know, it context is the most important thing for an LLM to be able to actually give you good results.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02If you have enough context, you just will get bad results.
SPEAKER_00You'll get and bad results and also answers that may not actually apply to your specific environment. All right, so this is what Andy said after you answered him, okay? He said, well, guess what I did? Now I can't boot into boot into a GPU pass-through VM. But luckily he has backups. Somewhere.
SPEAKER_01The somewhere is comedy gold, man, because it's like, yeah, I know I have backups. I just gotta find them first.
SPEAKER_02It should be fairly easy to restore your your XML. Like what I would do if you're having, you know, if you can't find your backups with the XML, just basically um delete the VM, but tell it to keep the V disks and then just recreate another VM with the with the default template, point it to the V disk, and then put your GPU pass-through in again just through the template. If you've got a V BIOS that you are using, just point it to that and start again that way.
SPEAKER_00Ed, you're a so wicked smart man.
SPEAKER_02Keep talking, come on.
SPEAKER_00And you're funny, people like you. Oh, I know. You're strong.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, I've got a funny story that Stefana and I want to share with you guys for our closing story. So I think this is pretty funny. Um so a United Airlines flight to Spain had to basically turn around and come back the other way because a Bluetooth device, some teenager had a Bluetooth speaker and it was called he'd named the Bluetooth speaker BOM. So you know, probably saying, Hey, you know, let's listen to some tunes on the bomb, man. Yeah. And um apparently it was trying to connect to things. Um Bluetooth is coming up on people's um phone, you know, when it scans the Bluetooth thing, and um it basically triggered their um emergency procedures, and they had to turn around and go back because the Bluetooth speaker was um named bomb.
SPEAKER_00And as we all know, you can't say bomb on a plane, even if you were a bombardier. Bomb bomb bomb. Bomb bomb.
SPEAKER_02But what I wonder is like, you know, this is what I wondered
Bluetooth Bomb Joke On A Plane
SPEAKER_02when I kind of um oh Bluetooth device. So maybe it wasn't a Bluetooth speaker. I was gonna say, what was he doing with a Bluetooth speaker on a plane? He probably wasn't very popular if he wanted to play music.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I believe it was his phone was broadcasting as bomb. And so people saw that and they're like, and of course, you know today, unfortunately, you have to take it seriously, right? So that's that freaked people out. And then um I I believe it was like a flight flight attendant.
SPEAKER_02Let's think about it, yeah. If you were trying, if you were trying to um do something like that, and I'm trying not to get this video kind of demonetized in any way, and you were trying to do that, you wouldn't call your device what it is, would you?
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Do you know what I mean? You wouldn't, you know, if you did have um uh you know a B O M B and you were trying to do that, you wouldn't name it that. You would name it something like ham sandwich. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00I know I know what you mean, but I feel like it would probably be if if if it were true, it'd be something more clever, like like uh little what do they name the nukes? Little little Fat Man? Yeah, fat man and like little finger or something like that. You that you would give it like a clever name, kind of like how uh attackers do with their like dirty frag. Like they name their stuff like interesting, like dirty frag or zombie has munchies or something with all I don't know. I feel I feel like that's what you would actually do. You wouldn't specifically say bomb. So only somebody really clever would be like, oh, little or fat man, they would know it was a bomb, right?
SPEAKER_02But I wonder how far this plane had actually gone before.
SPEAKER_00I don't think it even took off. Because I'm pretty sure the flight attendants, like, so I I saw a piece of the video, and I'm pretty sure they were like, whoever has their Bluetooth device named bomb, this little joke is not funny. You're holding everybody up. Can you please, you know, turn this off and be serious so we can all leave? Like they were actually quite annoyed at the situation. So I I don't believe the plane even took off.
SPEAKER_02So do you think it was like done on purpose then?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Um, that's pretty dumb. I I just thought like someone might have just called their phone that for Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt that they probably just called it that, but in all reality, it was probably um it was probably int intentional.
SPEAKER_02That's just so dumb. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I'd I'd yeah, like I you know, it's one thing to inconvenience yourself, but when you're on a plane, it's like everyone's annoyed already. Let's not this whole process sucks already. Can we not do another inconvenience thing?
SPEAKER_02You know, a lot of people are quite lord.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, there's tons of people nervous flying. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02You know, that's not really nice, you know.
SPEAKER_00Just yeah. I know people who refuse to fly because they're terrified of the idea of flying, you know, not having any control of the situation.
SPEAKER_02And so now it's not called they're not called Mr. T, are they, by any chance?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02From the A team, you probably don't remember.
SPEAKER_00For the A team, I thought that's what you were saying, but I was like, I wasn't sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He wouldn't get on a plane, and the only way they could get him on a plane was give him milk, because it would send him to sleep, and then he'd be in another country and ask how he got there.
SPEAKER_00I've never watched the A Team. Oh, okay. So I'm familiar though.
SPEAKER_02You're too young to remember it, but the older people watching will probably remember. Yeah. Anyway, guys, so that brings us to the end of the show today. So thank you very much for joining us on a Saturday. And um this video will be released again on the Wednesday um coming. So if you want to re-watch it, you have to wait for it. Pity the fool. Um, so yeah, um, thank you very much, everyone. Um, don't forget about the summer sale coming up next month. Um, you know, you can snag yourself some good bargains, maybe some cheap licenses, or you know, something nice from the merch store. I think like, you know, we saw last week those nice um kind of TIE Fighter Unray designs that I really liked. I am going to be getting myself an iPhone case with that design on very, very soon. I will probably wait till the summer sale to get that and see if that's on the discount then. But anyway, that's goodbye for me. And any last words, Stefano? No, well, thank you very much guys, and we'll catch you all next time. Bye!