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Holiday Banter And Housekeeping

SPEAKER_03 1:14

Looks like we're live to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Yeah, okay. So all you data hoarders, self-hosters, home labbers, and Docker addicts running 40 containers with no memory of installing half of them, you're in the right place here. Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of You Guessed It, Ed and Stefano Unleashed. So I'm gonna first say a happy 4th of July to not only you, Stefano, but all of my American friends and everyone watching in the States. I hope you're having a great 4th of July. How are you doing, Stefano?

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Good. Very good, man. It's uh crazy to think our country is now 250 years old. Yeah, well not quite as old as yours, but we're getting there.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

No, you're catching us up. Anyway, I'm here on good authority. It's 10 o'clock in the morning for you at the moment, which I hear by American independence rules, I'm reliably informed it's beer o'clock. So I have brought a beer here to open and drink with you guys on the 4th of July.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Is it American?

SPEAKER_01 2:11

It's actually Japanese. It's my favorite beer. I think it's called Asahi. I'm not sure if you've ever had it. Very nice beer. Um, if you hadn't had it before.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

You know, it's funny, I was very close to actually drinking Saparo, a Japanese beer as well, today. But I was like, I went out of my way to get an American beer this time.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Yeah. Um, it's very, very dry, that beer. I really like dry beers. So if anyone watching likes it, then check it out. Right, anyway, there's plenty to get through. So let's make a start with housekeeping. I'm gonna share my screen. Excuse me, everyone.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Housekeeping. Housekeeping. It's a good movie, by the way, if you haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Oh, never seen it. So hopefully you all guys can see that. So, first thing is the Unraid summer sale. That's currently running until the 19th. So good time to grab some licenses if you want an extra license. Um, there's 20% off starter and unleashed at the moment. Starter's normally $49, they're 39 at the moment, and unleashed down to $87. And also, if you want to upgrade, there's 30% off if you're upgrading from starter to unleash. So that's pretty cool. And also, if you want to buy a second license, there's 50% off a second license. Um, sadly, no discount with lifetime.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

But the real discount with lifetime is that you get it for life.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

That is exactly true, Stephanie. Yeah, yeah, that is exactly true. The lifetime license is the discount. Yes. So, anyway, check out the summer sale, guys. But moving on, I got some pretty exciting news. Now, I've actually got some skin in the game here. 45 drives announced the first wave of annual speakers at the fourth annual Creator Summit. So this is in Wilmington. Um let me just North Carolina, right? North North Carolina, yeah. Thank you, Stephanie.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I didn't realize that was like right down the street from me.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Yeah, well, you're right down the street. Isn't it about six hours from you?

SPEAKER_03 4:07

Something like that. Between sixty and eight. It depends. I don't know where Willing Will Wilmington is in North Carolina.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

North Carolina, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Uh but I yeah, I obviously know where North Carolina's at.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Yeah, well, your street must be very long if it takes you six hours to get right down the street.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

It's about the size of your country, not a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

But you can go you you can actually go there in person or you can watch the whole thing on a global live stream.

SPEAKER_03 4:32

And wait, we can go there in person and watch this live.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yeah. Cool. Um, so for those of you who don't know what the Creator Summit is, um, basically it's a whole summit built around exactly the stuff that we bang on about here every month, really, is open infrastructure, owning your own data, no vendor lock-in, which given this month's theme on the podcast, which is actually you don't own anything you bought, you know, this is actually a really breath of fresh air, I think. Now, I'm just gonna say who is going here. So you're gonna have the Lyme technology team, some of us are going there, and yours truly is very, very excited about going. I will be there. There's gonna be leaders from JR Automation, which is an Atachi group and one of the world's leading providers in advanced manufacturing. And Wendell from Level One Techs, he's gonna be there. I'm super excited about meeting him in real life, as I am with Jeff Gerling, who you may have seen on YouTube, makes a lot of um videos about Raspberry Pis and that type of thing.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Great channel.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Tom Lawrence, he's gonna be there. Now, I've been lucky enough to actually interview Tom on the podcast before. So again, it's gonna be super nice to be able to meet him in real life. So really looking forward to going to North Carolina. It'll be my first time ever in North Carolina.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

So if there's any uh server racks there, you should see who can lift each other the most, do the most pull-ups off a server rack. He might have you beat.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yeah, that sounds a pretty fun a pretty fun thing to do. Right, so that brings us to the end of our housekeeping. So let me unshare my screen for a moment, if I may.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

I wasn't really listening. When when is when does this uh event start? What's the date?

SPEAKER_01 6:20

It's um the 20th to the 22nd of October, and it's at the Skyline Center in Wilmington, North Carolina.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

Okay, cool. So sorry, cat chat's been very chatty this morning. They're distracting me from listening.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

All right, that's good. Hello, everyone in chat. So, anyway, our community chat this month is actually around, and I want to ask everyone in chat this as well as Stefano, firstly, what would be the one container you couldn't live without? And the second part of the question is I want to know the most underrated container that no one talks about. So, you know, I know what mine are, but I'm gonna ask Stefano, Stefano, what is the one container you couldn't live without? And please, Stefano, look in chat to see what everyone else is saying. I've got a good idea that a lot of us are gonna say very similar things for the one container we couldn't live without, but I'm wondering if there's gonna be anything that I'll be surprised about. I think a lot of us are gonna say it's a media container is the one we can't live without.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

So what what is yours, Stefano?

SPEAKER_03 7:21

Uh as you guessed, it's a media container.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

I don't think I could never have I I'd always install Jellyfin immediately. It would be the first one I'd have to have every single time. Or I guess maybe and or

Must-Have Containers And Hidden Gems

SPEAKER_03 7:35

Plex, but I don't have Plex, right? Or don't pay for Plex. I should have bought the lifetime license a decade ago, but yeah, so Jellyfin would be the first one. Now, this is probably cheating because I don't know. I I thought long and hard about this, but for the the next one, I think it would have to be whatever the latest flavor of game I'm playing.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Well, hang on. Let me let me hold your horse this moment. Okay. I want to say my favorite my you know, we'll we'll get to that in a moment. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Let's just talk about just wondered anyone in chat know what is a container you can live without?

SPEAKER_03 8:07

Jellyfin so far.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Jellyfin. Well, I'm a little bit different with that with my one, and I'm actually going to share my screen again just to make it a bit more interesting. So this is a container I can't live without, and it's actually MB. A lot of people say, why Enbi? Um, I really like MB. I do have a Jellyfin running on my server as well, but to be honest, I tend to think seem nowadays I'm using Enbi more than I am Jellyfin. Partly because my sister's got the Enbi client installed on her Roku, I think it is, and I really can't be bothered to try and talk her through removing that and setting up Jellyfin over the phone so she can connect to my Jellyfin server. But also, I think the prices are really good with MB Premiere. So monthly, $4.99, a year $54, and the lifetime is $119. And if you compare that to the lifetime of Plex at $750, well, you know, I think MB are a bit more of an honourable company than Plex for keeping their prices like this. And also one thing that I didn't know is I was subscribing to the monthly one back in about 2015, 2016, and I subscribed for years. Um I wanted just to support them. This is before they actually went closed source and before Jellyfin was actually a thing. Because for those of you guys out there don't know, um Jellyfin is actually a fork of MB. So um this is basically, I guess you could say, the father of Jellyfin in a way. But what it was, I was subscribing and then I was going to Jellyfin and I thought I'm gonna just not subscribe anymore, and I stopped subscribing. But because I'd subscribed, I think when your subscription gets over and you've paid as much as what a lifetime is, you get converted to lifetime.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

Wow, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Whether that still is the case now, I don't know. But I just thought, wow, that you know, I really like the company that they do that, and I thought that was really, really cool to be honest.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

So that's that's almost unbelievable territory because that's no company would ever do that, and that's insane that that's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Yeah, so if they still do it. If they still do it, they did. So you know, anyone you know know any difference? You know, chat, please comment, or if you're watching this video from next Wednesday when it gets released on the normal channel, please put your comments in the description below.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

You know who doesn't do this and probably should WinRAR. So so Winwar went the opposite route where you buy a license, you're stuck to that ver that license only works for that version, like six dot whatever, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

Not really a big deal, but it kind of sucks because when a new major release comes out, you've got to buy the new license for the major release. So that's like super old school. Like that's what the companies used to do in the 90s, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Like, oh, here's a box with CDs in it, and you buy, you know, whatever software, and then next year they're like, here's version 11, and now you have to buy this one if you want to use the new one.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

It's not the worst thing in the world, but I thought WinRA, you can just download it and use it for free anyway. Or am I wrong?

SPEAKER_03 11:12

No, you're not you're not wrong. That's right. Uh I wouldn't know because I've used 7 zip for literal decades now.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Right.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

But um I don't know. There's some nostalgia there for WinRAR because I think that was my first unpackager as well.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

Me too, yeah. Because Windows never used to be able to unzip a file, did it? It wasn't built in. When did that get built into Windows?

SPEAKER_03 11:31

Was it I feel like Windows 10.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

I think it was I don't think it was in eight, was it? I think it I think you're right, it was ten. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

I don't I I skipped eight because I always skip a version. So well not always, but I skipped I skipped eight. So I don't really remember. It was ten for me for sure.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

And when when did ten come out?

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Was it 20 2016?

SPEAKER_01 11:52

I'd like to say 16? Yeah. 2012? I don't know. So in Windows you couldn't unzip a file until 2016 in the OS. Pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

That is pretty wild. Anyway, so meanwhile, if you're on Linux, you had like unzip and uh tar and probably like six other options.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

BZ zip or Bzip, whatever it's called, Bunzip. You have too many options. You're like, ah, I hate it.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Right, Stephanie. I'm really interested to hear what your um super underrated container is that you think's underrated that people maybe should check out.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Okay. Before I say that though, a lot of people are st are also saying jellyfin.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

And then uh there's some non non-credited enough answers in here too, but we'll we'll say that afterwards. So non-credited. So mine's gonna be seasonal based, okay?

SPEAKER_01 12:43

And it's it's literally what you mean by that. What do you mean by seasonal based?

SPEAKER_03 12:47

Yeah. So it depends on whatever game I'm playing. So like it used to be Minecraft. I could not have a Minecraft server, but obviously that's not non-credit. Everyone talks about that, right? So it's uh it's a little I'm kind of cheating here. And then that right now it's Valheim, and then pretty soon I think it'll we'll go back to Project Zomboid. So I'm gonna go with non-credit because I feel like game servers don't really get enough credit.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

They don't. I mean, honestly. That's really, really, really true.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

Yeah, because you set it up one time and then you're just like, okay, I'm done forever.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Yeah. In fact, mine is quite similar to yours. Really? And I'm actually gonna share my screen for this.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Did we just come to us friends? Yep.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

So my super underrated container is actually Steam Headless. I love Steam Headless, I've used it for years, but I stopped using it for a while, actually, and just recently set it up again.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

Yeah, that should have been my answer, honestly, because a lot of containers install Steam Headless for you.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

So this is how I play all of my Steam games. I don't play it on my PC.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

And the game I'm playing at the moment on Steam Headless, I stream it to my Nvidia Shield. Um, let's see what let's open up the web UI here. I'm playing Resident Evil Requiem. I haven't played many hours of it, only three hours, but loving the game. It's super cool. I did have to jump through a few hoops actually to set this up to get Resident Evil Requiem to work. And if anyone's interested in what that was, I will just show you.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

That's awesome, man. That's a really good answer, I feel like.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

I had to put this extra parameter in in order to get this game to run. It's very rare that you have to do that.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

What's the U limit? Was that like a file limit or a file unlimited access thing? What is that? What are you unlimiting?

SPEAKER_01 14:31

You're you're setting like the kind of memory size for it.

SPEAKER_03 14:35

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Rather than it being unlimited. For some reason, the game doesn't some games just don't work unless you do that. I've no idea why.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

Interesting. Um so in chat, Omar says uh reverse proxy for not getting enough credit or under what a great what a great answer, Omar. That yeah, yeah. I was originally gonna start with that um as my answer, but I haven't used a reverse proxy in a long time because I just VPN. Um WeHolmes says uh KTZ systems and tail scale.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Right.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

I've never heard of KTZ systems. Oh, is that a YouTuber? Oh, that's youtuber. Alex KTZs. Yeah, that's youtuber.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Alex, yeah. Yeah. Alex, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Or not that he's the he's not a YouTuber, he's the uh uh tailscale guy.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Yeah, yeah, he works for Tailscale. So yeah, Tailscale, definitely, you know, underrated. Although I would say we the best way to install that is as a plugin, but you can install it into a container. So really interesting one there's underrated one, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Yeah, I was gonna say wire guard for my I absolutely have to have it, but because it is a plugin, I was like, well, I don't know. I'll I'll give it like an actual container.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Yeah. But yeah, I think plugins, you know, they they should count. It is because it's something you're installing on your server that's underrated. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Yeah, because like Nerd Tools used to be my go-to. Like as soon as I deploy Unraid, I'd install Nerd Tools. Which doesn't Andrew maintain today? Is that still true?

SPEAKER_01 16:02

No, Nerd Tools I think has been discontinued and no one is actually continuing it as far as I know. I might be wrong.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

Or did it migrate to something else?

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Let me have a look.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

It did, but I believe that like I still know it as nerd tools, unfortunately. So you want chat now?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Let's have a look. So no no nerd tools, sadly. So still works on my own Red Machine. I believe it's I live, I believe it still works, but um the packages just haven't been updated for the Yeah, some of the packages are super old.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

And I I think I installed Nerd Tools specifically for iperf. Uh but you there's a I think you can just download an iperf container or you maybe even plug in. But it's like I already have nerd tools, so I'm just gonna stick with it.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

So yeah, you know, you can still actually download it probably.

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Yeah, because you have to turn off the Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Oh no. No, it looks like it it it's just not available for me on um.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

Wait, did you hit apply when you changed the settings? I didn't see what I was like half watching.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Uh I think I did. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

And you might notice that um no, you won't notice because I've actually rebooted my server. Ignore me. I had a different version of community applications that Andrew had kindly let me look at to see the newest version of it, but I'd rebooted, so I can't show you guys. I'm sorry about that. So anyway, um, yeah, so you know, those are our favorite containers and most un underrated containers.

SPEAKER_03 17:30

Yeah, Steam Headler, that was a good one, Ed. Genuinely, that was a real good one. So so Omar in chat brings up uh so he said um something called Gluten and then Gluten VPN, yeah. Okay, and then Val key, uh which is Redis. So actually, if you and that if you were to bring up the apps again and you uh you show there's like a way to show like the the most installed or most downloaded apps. Redis and Postgres are like the most installed apps, I think, or containers. And yeah, go to all apps in the in the bottom left, and then just uh sort it by uh downloads. Oh yours is different than mine. Oh no, no, no, that's right, that's right. That's the same, that's the same result. Okay, yeah. So Redis and Postgres are like the most common. It's hilarious. Yes. Clearly needed. Very important, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Do you say Redis or Redis? For some reason I always say Redis. I don't know why. Maybe it is Redis. Have I been saying Redis wrong for years?

SPEAKER_03 18:27

I'm probably the one that's been saying it wrong for years. It should it looks like it should be Redis now that you say that. Red is.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah, I don't know. You know, let's say I've been drinking all morning, okay? Yeah. This is my fifteenth beer, everyone, you know, and I'm not even slurring much.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

You're starting to sound like an American.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

And that's a joke, by the way. This is my first one. Stefano's had fifteen.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

I wish I did.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Yeah, so anyway, um moving on. Last month, or well, actually it was only a few weeks ago because last month we had to delay slightly as um Stefano was um away for work. Um but we'll be away again next month, too. Oh, you're away next month as well. Yep. Deserting us, Stefano. That's horrible. But last month we said about um anthropic deactivating Fable 5. And from the first of July it's been reactivated again.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

So But only in the United States, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 19:24

No, I can haven't tried to use it, but it did pop up and say that I can use it. So I think that um everyone can now, as far as I'm aware. So, you know, that's back. I haven't actually tried it out. Although I have heard that um people are using it and it keeps falling back to Opus 4.8, as its guardrails are very, very tight, and it will sometimes think you're asking it to do something. Hey, no, you know, that that's too powerful. Need to fall back to this, and yeah, triggering and falling back.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Is Opus 5.8

Anthropic Fable Returns With Guardrails

SPEAKER_03 19:56

fable? I'm not familiar with their like actual names.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Opus Opus 4.8 is like the one before this one, basically. Okay. Yeah, it's not as capable as this, apparently. But yeah, anyway, they um basically trained an improved safety classifier that specifically blocks the jailbreak that started all of this. That I believe the Amazon Red team actually found them the jailbreak, and so basically they had to you know train a safety classifier and prove that that's no longer the case. And so it's now been allowed by the government to be put back into production.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

So great. All right, I gotta interrupt you, Ed. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Go for it.

SPEAKER_03 20:37

All right, Jason in chat says redis is pub sub. So always I always thought it was re-dis, like redistribute. Oh yeah. So yeah, that's what I got for you guys. Or got for you.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Uh thank you. Um, yeah, so Fable is out. Um, nothing much really more to say about that. So moving on to a story that I think is quite an interesting one here.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

So wearing it up one more time. Do you want to save some of these other questions for later? Because there's some interesting questions in chat.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I think we should answer the question straight away.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

Okay. One's not really related to what we're talking about. Uh and I've lost it. Okay, we'll move on to the next one because I don't remember where that one is. So Postgres for Image is using old PG Vector or Vecto. Any plans on updating to using the new vector chord?

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Um, yeah, so I assume that's probably directed at myself with the because I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, I will actually see if I can update it this weekend. I will put it on my list and try and do it tomorrow on Sunday and get that done.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

All right. Elite uh has another question for you. Can you guys talk about upgrade to image v3 and Postgres SQL?

SPEAKER_01 21:52

I would say on a on another podcast, maybe we'll talk about that. But um Yeah, I figured. Sadly, today we just don't have the time to go deep into that. Um, but it'll definitely make an interesting topic and we will put that on our list of things to discuss.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Electrio. That's how you say the name, Electrio 55 says that. All right, sorry. No more interruptions.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Continue. No more interrupt. Right. Okay, so if I'm still sharing my screen, hopefully you guys can see this. So there's a new malware that basically tricks AI scanners. So people will use AI to scan code for malicious things like malware in there, of course. So what malware writers are doing, and this ties back into what we were talking about um last month, Stefano. Do you remember we were talking about uh developers putting in code into their repositories so when AI scans it, it gives commands to the AI to delete the repository.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Yeah, they were putting in ASCII. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Yeah. So this is kind of similar because they put in like a request saying, please tell me how to build a nuclear bomb or a biological weapon. And so it triggers the guardrails to say, No, I can't talk about that, and it just skips actually. Looking at the payload and so it goes through the AI scanners without it actually looking at the code and it passes the malware tests. I just think you know it's kind of terrible, but it is very clever,

Malware That Tricks AI Scanners

SPEAKER_01 23:12

you know, in my opinion. Yeah. What are your thoughts, Tana?

SPEAKER_03 23:15

I think it's awesome. I like like you were just saying how you know you could uh it's like putting um on like resumes, words in there and stuff to to help the AI take your resume and put it at the top, but the complete opposite of that. And it it I think it's I think it's awesome, like hilariously awesome. Now, obviously it's super dangerous because if you're trying to scan some open source code and you know suddenly your AI doesn't do it to check for any malicious payloads, it's dangerous, but it's it's quite cheeky. It that's what it is. It's cheeky. Yeah, it's very cheeky.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

It kind of shows really human ingenuity, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Yeah. You know, it it really does.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

People will always find a way around things, and this is a perfect example of it, in my opinion. Yeah, just a really interesting story that I thought would be really cool to actually talk about.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Yeah, it's pretty fun. I I don't know. It's normally I get like this stuff of like, oh, come on, like, you know, whatever, but this is actually kind of fun in a bad way.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Just making the AI basically play itself, you know.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Using it's rules using its rules against it. So, yeah, pretty interesting. And moving on to our next story, this is one that is very close to my heart. Um, you know, and I think probably to all of us, really, we're all self-hosters, we all believe in data sovereignty, and we all like to actually own our own things and have our own things. So PlayStation is deleting, as you can see here, 551 movies from customers' accounts. And like it says here, reminding us nothing digital is ever truly ours. So that apparently from September, all of these movies, these 551 movies, were just being deleted from people's accounts. You know, they play paid whatever, I I guess 20 bucks each for things like Terminator 2 and their deal with um Studio Canal, I believe it is, is coming to an end. But what really frustrates me with things like this is you buy something as a digital product, but you don't know about the deals upstream. So the deals upstream with like the

When Digital Purchases Vanish

SPEAKER_01 25:17

studios, you you're not privy to that and they don't disclose it, and you believe you're buying the movie and you'll have it forever, but then when they decide they're not going to renew their license with that particular company, well, it sucks to be you. And you know, imagine if you bought all 551 movies at twenty dollars each. You know, how much does that come to? Uh $10,000, probably.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

I would be very upset. I mean, just like even if I had bought one movie.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

But I probably shouldn't say this out loud, but you know, to me, this like makes piracy justified. If I had bought all of those movies, I would be quite feeling I was morally okay to actually get myself a copy of something I'd already purchased. I don't know, maybe that's wrong.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

Why does it say is this a why does it say PlayStation instead of Sony? Wouldn't it be this is a Sony decision and not PlayStation?

SPEAKER_01 26:08

It is a Sony decision, but it's meaning the PlayStation store, like this PlayStation account um on PlayStation, because you can buy movies as well as um as well as games.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

That's this is just crazy, man. Like I don't I just don't understand these kind of things.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

So that's basically the message people are getting. That's an example of one. As of September 2026, our contact licensing arrangements, you would no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased, you know. You know, they've changed the meaning of purchased, you know, probably probably on about you know page 100 of their terms and conditions, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Is like, you know, there's there's some like lawyer speak in there somewhere that's like, oh, purchase is actually defined as renting in this case.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Yeah. Oh, you're not purchasing it, you're purchasing a license to be able to watch it. And then when we decide we don't want to renew that license, well, you know, you've given us the money, and it's just like it's not even as good as renting it, is it? You know, because you're paying full price for it.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

And I don't understand renting things digitally either. Like, even if it's five dollars to rent a movie to watch it for what, three days or so? Like, that's just that's crazy. Like it's different if you can so it's weird because we used to like when Blockbuster was a thing, you could rent movies, right? And you'd get it for you know how many ever days. But there was something different about being able to phys like rent a physical thing you take back to your house, uh, watch it, and then bring it back to the store, versus w renting something that's digitally available, like it's arbitrarily limited. You know, there like it's there, you can watch it anytime, but no, you have to pay to watch it for a service you're already paying for. Like it's such a weird concept.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

And also, like um for for you guys watching who are not old enough to remember things like Blockbuster video. Yeah, I remember going to Blockbuster and wanting to rent a movie. You'd you'd be in there for like half an hour, 40 minutes before you chose one, reading the back of every single DVD or V VHS cassette that you wanted to rent. But you'd you'd you'd choose the um movie you want to watch, you'd take it home, and you'd put it in the player, and you would definitely watch all of it because you're already that much invested into it. But nowadays you might start watching a movie on Netflix, ah, it's a bit boring in the first ten minutes, I can stick flip to this one, and and you kind of flip around a lot because the choice you're making, you're not so invested in the choice.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

It's kind of something I miss really from um the Blockbuster days. It was fun going in there with your family and you know, arguing with your sister and your brother about which movie we were renting for the weekend.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Yeah, because you could only choose one, so it was a tough decision.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

And you chose last time.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

And like when they added games, that was really cool too, because you would be like, Oh, my friend owns uh let's say Goldeneye, but I I haven't bought it yet because I'm still saving up money or it's not my birthday or whatever. So you would go rent Goldeneye, and then you guys could play I guess not really together, but you know, you could play it too, and that was I mean, that was just a cool, a cool thing. But it's just weird now to rent a game. Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Yeah. But what what I used to like about renting the games is you'd rent a game and then I'd play it, and I'd think, yeah, I actually want to buy this one now. And you know, it saved me a lot of time from buying really, really terrible games. So so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

And that's also, you know, well, I and like you remember when they would you could get like PC magazine and they'd give you demos of a game.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

And some of them you were only limited to like five hours, or maybe it was just like one mission or whatever. Like that was also a great introduction to uh to like should I buy this game or not? Versus now where you're like, oh, I have no idea if I should buy this.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

It's funny, I was I was talking to my brother the other day, and he's talking about the uh the demo, and my brother's a bit younger than me. And I can't remember if it was uh Metal Gear Solid or there's another game similar to Metal Gear Solid, and he had the demo of it, and he was saying to me, He's going, I used to play the demo over and over again. I was hoping that one day there'd be a glitch that would take me past the first level.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

Yeah, I had those same kind of dreams and and stuff. I was like, Man, I'm just I really hope it like breaks and the whole game is there. But obviously, you know, they can't put like six games on one disc. Whether you know, a man can dream and hope.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Yeah, I found it hilarious anyway.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah, so in the same vein as this, moving on, um, I'm sure all of you who are gamers have heard about this. So, GTA 6 edition is not gonna come with a disc. So Rockstar are selling GTA 6 and digital download only, but if you go to the store and buy the actual boxed game, there's no disc inside, there's just a download number that you redeem, and once you've redeemed that, that's it. It's in your um PlayStation account or Steam account, what have you. This has really upset a lot of people, including myself. Um, what are your thoughts on it, Stefano, this type of thing?

SPEAKER_03 31:08

Well, one, I I like this title because it's quite funny. Because are you are we allowed to tech curse on this? No, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:15

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

I okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

I always try not to, but I got you.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

So there's a song that exists, right? That's uh it's my Dick Richard in a box, but in this case it's it's a code in a box. Like

GTA 6 Goes Disc-Free

SPEAKER_03 31:30

I can't help but think of that song.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

But you know, this is crazy, and it the reason it really annoys me, Stefano, yeah, is because the obvious reason they're doing this is like they you they don't they want to destroy the secondhand games market, companies generally, like our next story will kind of confirm what I'm saying here about that. By actually making it download only, then you can't sell it to someone, you can't go and buy a secondhand copy of it for like sixty dollars. Anyone who ever wants this game is gonna have to pay eighty dollars for it or whatever the price happens to be for it. But the thing is is they want to still have the advertisement for it in physical stores. So they don't want um like someone's grandparents going into the store and wanting to choose say a game for their um grandson or granddaughter, etc. So without it being on the store shelves, they are not going to be able to sell it, but they don't want to sell a physical disc, they want the download code still. So they want to have the the presence in the physical stores still, but without you being able to actually buy it. So and obviously someone's grandparents or something's gonna feel a lot better handing a physical thing wrapped up under the Christmas tree with a stupid code in it rather than just sending an email to them with a code in it.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

Because it's just not the same. So it's pretty obvious that's why they're doing it. Um and I don't like it at all. I think I think it's really bad.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

I'm thinking of the kids in like rural America who are gonna get this digital code and then they're gonna download a game that's 180 gigabytes or whatever, something crazy, and they're still on um not not DSL, uh whatever, non-fiber coax internet, whatever that's called. And then so their connection is gonna be like a hundred megabits per second at best, maybe worse. And it's gonna take ages to download the game. They're gonna download the game and launch it, and there's gonna be an update on their console that they have to download. It's it's just a it sucks.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

You know, um, in their defense, you know, you could say, well, the games are coming so big that fitting them onto Blu-rays. I think wasn't Red Dead already, Red Dead Redemption 2, about four DVDs long? Sorry, Blu-rays long.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 33:45

Probably I think the um I think maybe a better approach would be like just put it on like a USB thumb drive.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

Now I don't know if this is true, but I've heard rumors that this game might be 500 gigabytes in size, which is absolutely insane if that's true. Like, you know, take that with a pinch of salt, everyone. Um I can't remember where I heard that, but I've got the Xbox Series S, which has a 500 gig hard drive. So I don't even think if that was true, I'd be able to even play this game on my console.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

Yeah. And so, okay, so chat, you know, they the this is the typical thing you see online, right? And chat says this too. I get it, and it's rubbish. Or I'm sorry, Nublow says. Uh, but when was the last time you purchased a PC game that was on a disk or DVD, etc.? Uh he says he leans towards GOG versus PC games, so you can have an offline copy, etc. etc. That's the problem. On PC, we have choices. You can go to Steam. Hello, I think you have a delivery.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Um you have Steam back and wait.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

You have GOG, you have other options. But if you are on a console, you have no option except for Sony, who may at any point be like, oh, we're taking away all 551 of your movies that you purchased.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

Like there's no freedom there. And also, a lot of people don't like PCs because Microsoft, you boot up your computer, computer, oh, here's an update. Now we've moved around all the things. The search function is slower than Google is at searching the entire internet and it can't find the game installed on your C drive because it wants to go to the internet, and they're like, oh, we fixed that. Now it searches your computer. The PCs are confusing for a lot of PV people because it changes so much. But a console doesn't really have as much change as a PC does, and it's a lot more consistent, and there's just more freedom. And games are cheaper on PC too. So like you can't really apply the PC mindset to consoles because they're just they're almost two different platforms, but while they're still mostly functionally the same.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

And also, if I'm gonna buy a game, I'd much rather buy it on PC because I'm always gonna have a PC, but I'm not always gonna have like a PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, you know, because a new console comes out, but I can play everything.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

And what's like and another thing too, like so I have an Xbox 360, you can't see it, it's off camera, it's on the wall right next to me. I might get bored one day and decide to take it off my wall and let me show you. Uh I almost tried to take my headset off that I'm not wearing. Grab a game that I literally can't buy online anymore and play it. You can't do this on consoles if it's all digital.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

What if they decide to remove it from the store? What choice do you have?

SPEAKER_01 36:20

And I'm just going to move on to our next topic whilst I talk about this so I can show everyone. So physical disc production is ending in January 2028 on all new games on PlayStation consoles. That's not just Sony games, that's every single game released for PlayStation from January 2028 will not be allowed to be bought. So they're yeah, this is the PlayStation actual blog directly from PlayStation, and apparently it's in response to shifting trends in consumer preference, which is just the biggest load of like rubbish ever. Because you know, like I say, yes, it's about basically stopping the secondhand game market. Because I believe if they want to do this, then let us actually be able to sell our code to someone else when we finish with the game. Let me, when I finish playing, say, Resident Evil Requiem, for example, if I was playing this on PS5 and it was only available as a digital download, why can't I play it and then be able to give that same code to my brother and say, I don't want this game anymore, you can have this game? Or, you know, because if they can build all of these complex stores, don't tell me they can't build that that thing in. Again, it's because they just want every single game that is purchased to have to be bought through the digital store. So every copy that's ever played, you know, will be at full price.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Yeah, it's all about control. Now, I wouldn't mind if they had the option for physical and digital releases, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:39

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

But you know, like there's something very cool about having a physical game disc. Now I understand that may not be possible, but like I said, just you throw in a USB drum a thumb drive. How cool would it be to have a USB thumb drive that's like you know how remember when NVIDIA released like those thumb drives that were RTX cards?

SPEAKER_01 37:58

No, I don't know. No. Man. No, I don't tell me.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

Yeah, they were super limited, but you could buy, or I don't think you could buy them actually. Uh, but you could get an NVIDIA graphics card in the shape of a USB thumb drive. And it was so cool. And I was like, man, I if they sold that, I would buy that just because it's like you know, such a cool idea. Now imagine having a game like Dante's Inferno where the USB thumb drive is customized to look like something from and like a key or something. That would be pretty sick.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

That would be awesome, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

But no, they're not gonna do that. Like, you know, they're they'd rather just try and make every additional penny they possibly can instead of doing something cool.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

The thing is with a USB thumb drive, I'm sure it would be very expensive to have one that's hundreds of gigabytes and now uh like today, you know, and that that's a whole nother can of worms, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

Omar actually says something pretty funny in chat that I didn't think about. Um to kind of go back. Uh you know how you said it might be 500 gigabytes?

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

All right, so what if Omar says it might end up being big, but he expects you'll have to stream the textures. Good luck playing that offline. What if you had to stream the textures? How crazy would that be?

SPEAKER_01 39:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

I can see your frustration.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

But you know, here's my prediction for five years' time, okay? Okay. In five years' time, we'll come back and find this episode. My prediction is this is the first stage in how game companies want games to go. They don't want you to even buy a digital download of games. They will w want you to basically pay for how long you actually play the game. You know, we're kind of seeing it with like um what's it called, the Xbox um game pass and things like that. That you just basically pay for being able to access the catalogue of games that changes. You know, that's you know, a subscription-based um gameplay rather than even downloading a digital license that can change.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Go ahead, go ahead. Finish with that, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

Just going back to I'm sorry to talk about gaming so much on this channel, but the original GTA 4 shipped with different music to what the music is in GTA 4 now if you have it on on Steam, etc. So if you were to buy it, it they've actually swapped the music out because the license, they don't have the license anymore to use that music. Yeah. If you have the physical copy of the game, you get the original music and the proper experience that was actually in it. It's like the radio channels you have on GTA had different music on GTA four than if you buy GTA 4 today. Um, which I thought I never knew that. I thought that was pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

When they remastered Vice City, they couldn't reuse Michael Jackson because of that exact issue.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

So you couldn't even get the original music. Yeah, so uh Nubler says uh Sony owns Blu-ray. So is this a sign of an end to movies on discs as well? And I misquoted him to no end on that one.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

That's you know, well I I would say probably looking at the way things are going, I don't see why they wouldn't want to do that as well. But I think there'll be more pushback with that than there are games. Um it's easier to justify it for games, I think, than movies, because the justification for games is oh, when you're downloading the game, it's never like totally complete. There might be security updates that need to be patches that need to be done, and you can't say you need to catch a movie. So it's just an easier um it's an easier target for this than movies, in my opinion. You know, people still do like to buy movies.

SPEAKER_03 41:38

Uh Marcus brings up another popular content creator, Linus. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. Uh he pointed out that the plan is for digital download for the first couple of months and then a disc is released after that.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

No, that's not true.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

That's yeah, I feel like that can't be true.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

No, there's been um apparently that was a rumor, and it was I think it was their support that said that, and it wasn't true. And the official line is there will be no there will be no physical disk for GTA 6 at all.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

And I feel like that applies to all PlayStation games because Sony has shut down their factory. Or I'm sorry, not shut down, they've re-architected their factory for new purposes. Optical sensors or something like that production.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

Yeah, you were you were telling me about that before we started. That's pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

Yeah, so there's optical micro lenses, that's what it is. And so there I feel like that can't be true just based off of that, those facts.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Yeah, but you know, obviously GTA is not just a PlayStation only, so it's you know, yeah, yeah, every every single platform is gonna be eventually.

SPEAKER_03 42:41

But PC will always be last. All right, can we so I know we're hating on Sony, all right? I gotta say it, Ed. I I've gotta bring it up. So the the factory workers uh that work in the disc production plant, and the only good news to come out of this are not being fired or laid off. They're being retrained. All 300 of them are being retrained to work on these optical micro lenses. Some good news.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

It is, it's good news. It's like you know, it's um it's not as bad as it could be. I wouldn't say good news, I'll just say it's not as bad as it could be. But I have got a love-hate relationship with Sony, um, as I do with AI. Um, I love the PlayStation 1, I love the PlayStation 2, I love the PlayStation 3. You know, there's a lot of Sony things. I love the Sony Walkman back in the day. But Sony have done some really bad shenanigans. Do you know about this, Stefano? I'm gonna share my screen here. So Sony basically in 2005 put a root kit into CDs to try and stop people being able to copy them. And it installed a rootkit onto your PC basically. So you'd put it into your Windows PC, you'd agree to the EUR, and it would just install a root kit into your PC. And the funny thing is, is the guy who did a press release, and I'm paraphrasing this here, he said it doesn't really matter anyway, because most people don't know what a rootkit is.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

That's ridiculous, man. Uh that is absolutely ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

That is one of the most classic things. But yeah, Sony got on a lot of a lot of like heat for this, is you know, you know, um putting this kind of rootkit in to be able to stop your PC being able to copy the disk and rip the music CD.

SPEAKER_03 44:22

Um well it's a good thing they changed it from rootkits to DRM.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Yeah, so anyway, yeah, let's stop talking about Sony and let's move on and talk about something else. Um let's see here. So Amazon is changing the whole OS of the fire stick. Um I wonder if you want to speak about this one, Stephanie.

SPEAKER_03 44:43

Um yes, but chat's always a little delayed versus us. So I wanted to say one last thing. Wire brings up a really good point, and I I didn't even think about this at all. Uh, but he says this will kill console use in remote locations such as ships. And I'm gonna extend this.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Oh god, yes.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

Yes. So remember when our countries were fighting in the Middle East together, it was insanely popular for soldiers to have their Xbox 360s or PlayStations where they could play games and kind of uh recluse from the war and the the all the bad stuff that comes with that, right? But if if a new game comes out and you want it and you don't have internet access because you're in literally some desert somewhere or wherever you are, you can't play that new game. And that is catastrophic.

Fire Stick Lockdown And Kodi Fallout

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Yeah. And another thing as well is like my my brother's in the um in the military, and he's told me before when he's been on bass and stuff that the internet is so slow that I don't think it probably was to play either.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

And the worst part about it being slow too is like you it take it'll take forever to download, right? And then hopefully they they have a fix for this. But like you'll we're in the middle of your download, you'll get disconnected, or uh something will happen, and then so you have to restart the download, and that would be awful. Which I don't think you have to do these days, but that was always a problem back in my my younger years.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

Yeah. Talking about things disconnected, I'm sorry, uh you know I always go off on tangents. Um but going back to my Steam Headless and this game here, Resident Evil, um, I just want to tell people um in case they run into the same problem, is this game has I think it's called Devono. It's like a they do anti-cheat and anti kind of piracy things, and a lot of a lot of the Sony games um or sorry, a lot of the Resident Evil games have this in. It just checks that you're not trying to install it on too many computers within 24 hours. So chance it is Devono. Devno, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 46:46

Or De novo.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

De novo. So you're allowed to install up to five games in 24 hours. But I got locked out. I bought this game, it took me three days to be able to play it because of this. Um what happens is in Unraid and your Docker container, every time you restart a container that like I'm gonna restart this container here, this signal API, okay? And just look at the MAC address of it. It will ch it will change. Okay, so notice that's a different MAC address now than before. So when you restart your Steam Headless container because of this MAC address here, it's thinking that it's a different PC. And I was having issues trying to fix the game and you know, with that other thing I was talking about earlier. So when you're restarting Steam Headless, you are getting a different MAC address. So that's why you notice here it's on a static IP. But in Unraid now, what we can do, there's a new feature that allows us to actually put a fixed MAC address for a container. So if you're using Steam Headless, put a fixed MAC address in, and you won't have that horrible issue that I had having to wait three days and just rolling five installs in 24 hours. Um I was just trying to activate the game and play it, and I couldn't because every time I restarted it, it thought it was a different PC.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

I'm gonna say that's a fantastic feature to add because I've worked with lots of software over the years that relies on the MAC address so to do the license check. And so a lot of times what we've done is because these systems are virtualized, is spoof the MAC address or basically you know set it to the same MAC address, right? And that way we don't have to buy a license just because we migrated a virtual machine from one hypervisor to another. Yeah. And so so that's such that's gonna be such a crucial feature because a lot of a lot of software still relies on MAC addresses, which is uh a lot of people don't know that you can spoof or or uh or assign.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

Yeah, I think a lot of us know you can do it with virtual machines but containers as well.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

I yeah, I was I was literally waiting to ask you, like, oh, can you do it with and then you went with it.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

So it's quite funny. I was speaking to one of our devs the other day when when um this feature was put in. I was saying, I can't really think of any reason why I'd want to actually assign a static MAC address. I said, I know why I'd want to assign a static IP address, but I said, I don't really know why I'd want a static MAC address. Because in Docker as well, it doesn't ever give the MAC address to the router and it assigns the IP from the router. It will always be done internally with Docker's own DHCP. So I was trying to think, why would I need a static Mac? And this is exactly why. So it really saved my ass that I can play my games.

SPEAKER_03 49:23

It looks like chat likes this feature as well. Perfect says that yeah, he's currently using it.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Yeah. Anyway, so Amazon. Amazon, they have or they are in the process of stopping sideloading. So I was gonna say, do you want to speak to the show?

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Gee, I can't imagine why. Uh yeah, so allegedly this is you know basically just uh there they're so Amazon, so it's no secret that Amazon Firesticks are being used to uh load these apps that allow you to watch unlimited TV. And there are multiple and not just TV but also also movies. So Amazon wants to change their operating system so that they can protect it from malware and other security stuff or security-related stuff. So they're changing it from an Android operating system, Fire OS, over to Vega OS. Uh so this way it's it's a proprietary Linux distribution and they can crack down on people sideloading apps or or basically crack down on piracy, essentially.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

And I think it's kind of a little bit hypocritical because I don't know if you remember, Stefano, years ago it's still around now, the program called Cody.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:42

Yeah. So people used to like sell things they'd call Cody boxes on the internet, which was very similar to these modified fire sticks that people sell with like you know, live TV, etc., in it. And in fact, let's just bring up the Cody the Cody slide. But Cody basically Plex was actually a fork of Cody, in case anyone didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Wow. But um no, um a fork of XBMC. Sorry. XBMC was the predecessor to Cody, which was Xbox Media Centre, and then Xbox Media Centre they changed it to Cody because it wasn't just on the Xbox anymore, the original Xbox. But also Plex was a fork of that. But Cody got so much backlash for people installing the plugins that allowed this exactly the same thing as what is happening with Amazon, that in Google it got soft like delisted that when you typed in Cody it wouldn't auto-complete. And it literally just really hurt the product and it was no different than what Amazon Firesticks are doing here. Google is such a weird Maybe Google should like if you type in Amazon Firestick, it shouldn't auto-complete because if we're gonna hold Amazon to the same standards they held Cody to, shouldn't we not do that?

SPEAKER_03 51:57

No, because they'll they'll easily give you malware links well before they'll do something that they should probably not be hypocritical about.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

Yeah. Okay, so moving on, let's see here. We've got another interesting one here. I found this a very interesting story. Is BitLocker was used to basically encrypt companies' data and then ransom it. Just like the old kind of ransomware where you would have like a little thing come up on your screen saying all your files are encrypted. But how this happened apparently, it's very interesting. Is apparently they used some kind of RDP software. I'm not sure if it was like standard built-in RDP control.

SPEAKER_03 52:38

But knowing how like vulnerable RDP is, it was probably Microsoft RDP.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

I I don't think it was, I think it was some other software, and I think it was basically what happened is an employee's RDP software got compromised, and then the attacker then set up an admin account, a new admin account in the software, so that if the password was changed of the compromised account, they would still have access to it. And then what they did is they did something called t time stomping, which is basically

BitLocker Turned Into Ransomware

SPEAKER_01 53:12

the you would often kind of you often look at files to see what's been changed to see if there's been an attack. So what they'd do is time stomping and like basically using kind of built-in things in Windows to basically re do the metadata on the files, saying, hey, this is from kind of 2017. Um and then people would be looking and think, oh, that's an old file that's been there for ages, nothing, nothing to worry about.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

Must be safe, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

Yeah. And then what they used is they used Microsoft's BitLocker to encrypt all of the companies, all of the organization's files, and then take the keys away and ransom them with Microsoft's own BitLocker. You know, so they didn't need the malware on the actual machine because they're using the actual enterprise's built-in tools to do it. Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

And BitLockers is actually pretty good. So you know, it's pretty smart on them. And it probably also another thing that's smart on them is um so like let's say you have like uh some sort of like tool to scan the system for uh suspicious code activity or whatever, if you're using the built-in tools, your seam isn't gonna flag or send alerts to something weird because it's built in. So it's it's actually pretty smart. But I do wonder, Ed, so does Microsoft can Microsoft unlock your system for you? Because allegedly they do have keys to unlock anybody's bitlocker encrypted system. Oh, do they? For the government.

SPEAKER_01 54:29

Oh, okay. I wasn't aware of that. So so they can basically unlock anyone's bitlockers, is that correct?

SPEAKER_03 54:35

I feel like I feel like that's true because there was rumors before that the FBI was able to get into systems that were bitlocker encrypted because Microsoft had like essentially backdoor keys. Or not maybe not backdoor keys, but had keys to unlock any bitlocker device. So would you be able to submit a ticket, do you think, to be like, hey, can you unlock my Yeah, but then they'd have to admit that they they can do it. Ah yeah, yeah. So they'll be like, no, we can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:05

Well, I don't know if it's true. I feel like it is true.

SPEAKER_01 55:07

But it it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. But yeah, I thought that was a pretty um pretty smart bit of malware. Just use the tools that are already smart, yeah. Trying to sneak your own encryption software onto the system. Just like you say, anti-malware and antivirus things just will not think it's any issue.

SPEAKER_03 55:25

Yeah, Omar says that if you do use BitLocker, Microsoft does back it up uh online, but this is different because somebody else is putting keys, so they might be backed up on I don't know how that would work. If somebody else uses keys, maybe they can opt out of backing it up online.

SPEAKER_01 55:40

I'm pretty sure you could probably opt out of it. Um and also you can set up Windows without a Microsoft account, can't you?

SPEAKER_03 55:47

Yeah, they did reverse on that finally.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

Yeah. So yeah, so what have we got next? Ah, so um what's it called? Fortinet routers. I think there were 200 countries that were hit with this. I wondered if um you want to speak about this story a little bit, Stefano. It's like you might be better versed at talking about this than me.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

Sure. So this one actually hits close to home um for me because Fortinet's very popular in the United States. I I mean I assume it's popular all over the world, or Fortinet devices.

SPEAKER_01 56:20

Is this just an enterprise router or uh firewall?

SPEAKER_03 56:23

Enterprise they they sell everything gateways, firewalls, access points, uh you name it. They have the VPN uh paid and free VPNs, like all sorts of things.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

Right.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

Uh but this one, I believe, uh specifically affects gateways. Uh and the attack is called Fortableed. And so essentially a database or not just a database, but all their other leaked credentials were set online. And so they essentially tried using known passwords and known credentials against thousands of devices

Fortinet Fortableed And Credential Dumps

SPEAKER_03 56:57

that were connected to Forta Gates Cloud Portal, or I'm sorry, FortaNet's cloud portal. And so anyone that was using their cloud services uh was now a part of this attack. And I want to say like 75,000, 74,000, something like that, devices were were affected by this. So I remember seeing this happen and spitting out my my coffee and being like, oh my God, oh my god, does this affect us? And thankfully, there's uh, I don't know if they're a security researcher, but this uh organization uh that is HudsonRack.com, I believe. Let me double check that real quick. I think it's Hudson Rack. I'm sorry, HudsonRock.com. Uh was like, hey, if you're compromised, go to our website, type in your domain, and you can see. And the and I was scared at first because I've never heard of Hudson Rock. I was like, what if I put my domain name in there and then we become a target because now they know that we're looking, right? So I was terrified of actually checking. So me being the big smooth brain I am, I checked other local companies in my area first to see if they were compromised.

SPEAKER_01 58:03

Oh so you threw them under the bus as well. I threw them under the bus. Oh, that's really nice of you, Stephanie.

SPEAKER_03 58:08

And uh none of them came up, so I was like, hmm, let me try random companies like Samsung. And then I was terrified when Samsung was compromised. And I basically started trying like all these big huge name companies, and surprisingly, a lot of like massive companies like Samsung, Spotify. Um I can't remember the whole list, but there's some big name companies that are involved with this. And finally, after going through all of them, I I gave out my my company's uh domain name. And uh thankfully we were not involved. So not yet, anyway. But we we actually don't even use the cloud services because um we kind of had the uh security posture where we think that you know anything connected to the cloud is bad. Okay. And so this one saved us. And and also, if you don't remember, uh we don't use Red Hat's cloud services called insights, and that actually saved us as well from another uh supply chain attack.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

And wasn't this um this breach because they stored the passwords in some very weak encryption and they downloaded the whole database and then decrypted it offline using basically a whole bunch of rented cloud GPUs? I believe that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Yeah, there was something like that too. Um Admittedly, I I don't actually know quite exactly how they executed it, but I that does sound correct.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

But yeah, that's pretty pretty wild. And so I guess this list is just out in the in the wild con constantly now.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

Possibly. I mean, if if you can just literally go to like HudsonRock.com and check, I mean that's that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

Okay, uh thank you for that, Stephanie. Um let's move on to our next story.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

Um before we get too far, so uh MAGA all the way seven? It says, what about some sort of unification with settings and tools? Um I think that's related to Unraid. Yeah. But I'm not sure what context.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

Um let me show you something for that. Um so settings and tools, I'm totally with you. It it is a bit confusing sometimes as to which one you go to. You kind of think, ah, tools is that settings. But what you can do, you see that little heart there? So say I always use say system devices. I'm gonna heart that, add to favourites, and also in my settings, they display settings. I'm gonna heart that. So what you do is you heart all of the ones that you want from the tools and the settings, and then you see here I've now got favourites. And so I've got those. So you can literally make your own curated one from both.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

So that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

Not exactly what you're asking for, but um yeah, I think that's pretty useful personally.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:53

And then perfect also talks about uh he says gamers next to level one text, who you'll be meeting soon. Uh had a recent collaboration video where they talk about BitLocker being used to lock people out of their own computer and Microsoft. Oh, Microsoft refusing to help. Okay. That's the key takeaway. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:12

So Microsoft admits then. They admit it. They can help, but they choose not to.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:17

Yeah. But maybe they choose not to because they don't they would then have to prove that you actually own the PC and you have the rights to actually be able to unlock it. Otherwise, I could just steal your laptop and go, hey, Microsoft, I've got this laptop here. I just can't get into it. Like, I'm called Stefano Partida, and like what do I do?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

So you maybe you have to give them that benefit of the buttons. No. No. But if it's Microsoft, I'm quite happy to just say that they're terrible and they shouldn't help.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:43

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

So uh talk about supply chain um hacks. So a new gems and um another NPM supply chain attack, go figure. So they're putting some kind of cooldown on there so they can't go out into the wild um straight away. Because most I think most um things are just found by users within about four hours often. So they're just basically putting a cooldown into new releases. So they don't so they're not auto-updating into systems straight away until X amount of days have passed. Okay. So it's just kind of putting a bit of friction in between it, just automatically going into systems, and then hopefully people have actually found that it's got some you know vulnerability in it and it's been compromised before it just automatically updates a load of systems.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

So well, hopefully they're not using AI to vet these packages because AI, if you put you know, malicious or I'm sorry, not malicious, if you tell the AI to start building a nuclear bomb, you'll never know.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

It's not

Supply Chain Attacks And Cooldowns

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

gonna do it. Yeah, so wow. So yeah. Um and what have we got next on the docket?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Another supply chain attack. Who would have thought?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:00

Another supply chain attack. It's uh it's ever every month, isn't it, Stephanie? All the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:05

So It's every weekend!

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

Every week. For all of you pe people who the distro I run is Arch Linux. Well, you had a little bit of a issue with 1,500 um AUR packages were compromised.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:21

Stick that up, your smug R censored that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:25

Yeah, so yeah. Um happening all the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:29

Is are we gonna be those smug uh unraters when UnRAID officially announces that they've moved to Arch?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

Stefano, we're not moving to Arch.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

So you admit it then. You do know what we're moving to.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

I'm not saying anything, and I'm never gonna say anything. You can you can ask me as much as you like as you want, but I my my lips are sealed.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

One day I'll get you accidentally confessed.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

That'll be after the official announcement, so.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:54

Maybe you should drink more beer, Ed.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

Anyway, uh Steam Machines out, uh just over a thousand dollars. Is it worth it? Um sadly no, but um that's unfortunately the world we live in at the moment. Would this be anything you'd ever consider buying, chat? Um for me, it's just a little bit rich for what it is, especially when I've already got a PC and a GPU.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

I will say I was really close to buying it for my kid, but I just couldn't stomach the price. So I I ended up uh just not doing it. I my kid's using this really old laptop, uh, and this would be perfect for him, but it's just so expensive.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

I just feel the hardware is just a little weak in it. Um like I think the CPU is like a 35 watt CPU or something. Yeah, I know they wouldn't need to keep it cool, running cool and things that yeah. I mean for the price, it's just too it's just not not enough bang for Buck. Yeah, I I think I agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

But thankfully for him, you know, he just plays like Minecraft and Valheim and

Steam Machines And Retro Gaming Rigs

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

uh just other games, uh Balloon Tower Defense, just like these games that don't really require intense graphics, so it'd be perfect. But then when I think about well, the computer he has uh does all that right now, and it was significantly cheaper, so it's hard to justify the the jump. I really want one though. Is that is that bad?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

No, I I would love one as well. Just um oh I was trying to actually buy the controller. Yeah, I really wanted the Steam controller. And in the UK, I I would love to know if this is the same in the US. But I went onto their website and I thought £85. I thought that's quite a lot for a controller. Then I thought to myself, well, no, kind of Xbox have sold, you know, their really you know top of the range controllers, not the regular ones for quite a lot more money than that. So I thought maybe I'll buy one. And then you know, I click the button and it says um delivery will be something like February 2027. I thought, no, I'm not paying 85 pounds. So I thought maybe I can find a second hand button on eBay. 200 pounds.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:01

Thank you, scalpers.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:03

I'm thinking, are you having a laugh? Like, uh, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:06

Yeah. No, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

I still use my regular Xbox controller with my games, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:11

That's what I do too.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:12

And why is it why is it next year? You know, what you know, controllers, like why does it take so long to make them? Is is there any type of shortage in something inside of that? That's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:23

Maybe there's a supply chain attack called scalpers. I have no idea. That's that's absurd. If you when you said February, I was like, that's already passed, and then you're like 2027. I was like, wait a minute. But you know, so someone bring someone in chat uh said, I think it was Omar. Yeah. He said it'll it'll seem reasonably reasonably priced in 12 months. But if we look at Apple or other companies who've raised their prices due to RAM, I have a feeling they'll increase their prices too, just because of the rising cost. And I believe Valve actually stated that if they try to negotiate on RAM prices at all with any of these main Manufacturers, they would be blacklisted forever. So they basically had to pay whatever the price was that the manufacturer was offering or for not get the RAM or get access to RAM ever. Which, you know, is kind of like how is this one? How is that legal? And two, how is that not price fixing? Like I feel like that's anti-consumer and then Valva's technically not a consumer, but you know, like that that seems illegal. So where's the government investigation into this?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Yeah. Well, we know there won't be one.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:34

Omar says that the Steam Machine will make a great retro console.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:38

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:40

But at the same token, you could technically download SteamOS and install it on not any hardware, but almost any hardware, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:48

Yeah, you can you can download Steam. Is it Steam OS is it 3.8 now, isn't it? SteamOS. Yeah, but you can install it on anything. But the the the Steam Deck made an awesome retro um gaming system. I I bought the Steam Deck pretty much when it first came out, not an OLED version, just the regular version. And I managed to get a two terabyte hard drive for it when they cost about $80, put that in it and partitioned it, and had the Steam OS on one side and then the other one terabyte side I ran Batessaria, which is for people who don't know Batasaria. I will just show you.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:21

I've never heard of it. Uh you just reminded me there's uh another YouTuber who uh they don't necessarily make unraid videos, but they have an unraid machine, and uh their NVMe drives died. And they're like, Well, I really want to buy new drives, but they're hella expensive. This is a very small creator, and uh and so I felt really bad. Um, I don't know if you can see it's just off camera. Forgot I'm attached. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:50

So Batasera Linux, it's basically a retro gaming distro. Um unfortunately we can't see too much about it on this page, but it's really awesome. Um, it's just a distro based around playing old retro games. You just install it and add the ROMs, and you can just play whatever you want.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:09

I'm gonna have to look into this because there's been some retro games that I really want to play. I mean, I still have like a Nintendo 64, but apparently I lost one of these games I really like.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

It runs on all of these different things. So you see the Steam Deck, that's what I um installed my Batteria on. But I also have a Batessaria VM that I run on Unraid. Cool. And my Unraid server is actually one of my server racks is inside an arcade cabinet. Yeah. So that so that Batesseria VM powers the Unraid cabinet, and I've got the controls linked up. So I can play all of the retro games through an Unraid VM.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

When I came to visit you, you didn't have that set up and working, did you? Because I don't remember showing that off in the home lab tour.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Um I think I'd just started to set it up and I hadn't got the controllers working as yet because I had to spice by some parts to try and get the controllers into um, you know, the arcade controllers to go into USB and then pass that through to the VM.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:05

Speaking of which, uh of the home lab tour, there you were doing something very special in the shed that we weren't allowed to look at. But now that you've moved house, can we know what you were what secret project you were working on in the shed? Do you remember that? I know that was like three or four years ago now, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:24

It's probably one of those projects that I started then forgot about, and um it's half finished. Yeah, we were trying to do remember, I can't remember what that was.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:32

All I remember we were trying to use it as leverage to uh get uh or LimeTech to send me back out there for a studio tour part two. Now that you moved house, I've got to come back. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:44

You do, you do, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:46

So LimeTech, if you watch your own videos, uh hit me up. You know where to find me.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

Yeah, yeah. Please send Stefano on a very, very slow boat that takes maybe a a year to get here. A year I love you really, Stefano. I'd want you to come on Concord and get here very, very fast.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:06

Do they still exist?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:07

I heard they're remaking them. I'm not sure if that's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:10

Okay, anyway, moving on from Steam. Um this is a really interesting story. Is AMD basically silently took out memory encryption in the Ryzen 9000 CPUs through some firmware or BIOS update, and they didn't tell anyone, and it was only a a user who actually found that it was missing, and there's a massive community backlash about it, and they basically reversed course with it. And there's a BIOS coming in July that will put it back. So I why would they even do this? I've no idea.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:43

You feel like I feel like it'd be more expensive for them to they're essentially wasting money by removing it and then just to go back on it and then add it back. Like that's such a weird I thought they cared about money. What do the investors feel like?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:58

The strange thing is is they must have removed it because it will make them more profit if it is removed. Because they wouldn't have any other reason. I don't know. Maybe maybe by silently removing it and another chip that they

AMD Firmware Backlash And Flock Cameras

SPEAKER_01 1:12:12

haven't done it on will be more attractive and so they can have a higher price. That's the only thing I could possibly think of, and I'm probably totally wrong, but I just can't see any reason they would remove because it costs them money to remove it to make this new update and push it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:25

We've got some good ideas in chat.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:27

Yeah, well, all right. Tell me.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:29

First one is and hear me out any press is good press from that's from perfect, and then wire has a really good one as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:39

Federal government.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

Yeah, possibly. That's that's a good point.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:42

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:44

Interesting, interesting guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:47

I yeah, at first I was like, yeah, that does make sense, and then wire coming in here and be like, Feds, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:55

I love a good conspiracy.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:57

So maybe next month we'll be doing this same story for but for Intel, and they've backtracked and when they got found out. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

Who knows? Yeah, who knows.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:05

Anyway, um interesting story all round. And this is something that I thought was absolutely wild when I heard about it. Is luckily in the UK we don't have these cameras as yet, but I'm sure we will get them very soon. Is the flock cameras that are going up I hear in many US cities in your country? Um they basically can look at your car, read the registration plate. We we've had cameras in the UK that can read the registration plate for a long time. But apparently, these cameras they can actually, if you've got like a scratch somewhere on the car, they will know that you've got that scratch and then go, hey, that Nissan with the scratch on the rear wheel arch has gone past again. And so you can even take your number plates off and it would still know the car. But also what it's doing is it's tracking like Bluetooth beacons as well. So when you're driving past these, it's like detecting the Bluetooth devices in your car, and so it can detect basically track the people in the car, and you know, oh, that's definitely that person who was in this this car a few days later was seen in another car, so they must know this person, and you can like link all the metadata together.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:19

But it's uh it's kind of like how even if you don't have a Facebook account, you have a Facebook account because of people tagging and just by association, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:27

But you know, this is this is like how I really hate closed systems. Yeah, you get no choice, you you know, you don't even know that this is happening and you get no choice to opt out. Like, you know, who agreed to have their basically to be tracked? You know, no no one. And you know, it's just really sad, I think, these kind of things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:47

And what's funny is like it's it's so simple to detect this stuff. Okay, so I have a wireless access point. I I live very close to a road, okay? And my wireless access point can pick up well, I'm sorry, not to a road, to the street, like literally from my driveways connected to the street, right? And all the cars that pass by, my Wi-Fi access point can pick up their Bluetooth as well as their Wi-Fi. And so I can see, oh, Ford Expedition, whatever, went by at this time. Uh Mercury, whatever, drove by GMC, whatever. Like I can see all that stuff. But you know, it like me, like, I'm not gonna do anything with that data. But the government, on the other hand, maybe not even the government, these companies, they can they can find some way to monetize that and sell that data.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:31

I even heard that they can detect the microchip in your dog if you've got your dog microchip.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:35

Ah, really?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:36

Yeah. But um this type of thing actually has been going on with like Bluetooth beacons for a long time that people might not realize is when you go into a supermarket, is supermarkets often use Bluetooth beacons for redoing their stores. So they'll go on a Thursday, like kind of in the UK, um, people have like a pension, they often normally get it on this on the same kind of day, everyone in the country who get their pension payments for the government pension. And so stores were kind of thinking like, oh, on a Thursday morning, it seems loads of pensioners are coming in on that. So they'd like put certain things at the beginning of the store for what those people are, because they could track the Bluetooth beacons and they would know which people are coming into the store. Um and they do it in malls as well. So obviously they're just putting it into these cameras as well, technology that has already been being used.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:26

What's crazy to me is the indifference that people have towards these cameras and stuff. And and chat is on fire today. And so Perfect, this just kind of goes back a little bit, but also applies to the situation. So Perfect says the Ryzen 9000 CPUs can't be encrypted because we have to protect the children, which is something we've joked about several times. So it's just the perfect thing. So I'm sure there's some way that they're like, Oh, we need these cameras to protect the children.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:53

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Like they care about the children so much that you know. Yeah, they have to do all of these things. Yeah, so you know, bite tongues.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:07

Tries not to get political.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:13

All right, let's move on. It's I'm getting spicy. Okay, let's move on. I've been drinking. So this is bad on me.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:19

So this is a story you sent me to talk about. And so you talk about this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:24

I love this one. And I feel bad. Okay, so this this is great. So faceless creators are becoming collateral damage in YouTube's AI cleanup. And what's funny about this is um oh man, I wish I could remember some of my favorite faceless creators. Uh uh, you've recently started making videos with your face in it on your channel.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:47

I do I do a lot of faceless ones too.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:50

Man, I think it's Nettie. Let me look real quick. I gotta look real quick. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Man, I why can't I remember? It doesn't matter. I I guess it doesn't matter. Okay, so anyway, faceless creators who make content, right, are now having me to put in sections uh in their YouTube video saying, hey, I'm a real person, even though I might sound like AI. Uh, but I created this, I've done my own kind of uh graphics, I've done everything. I'm a real person. Please don't downvote me, please don't dislike, please

YouTube AI Cleanup Hits Real Creators

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

don't unsubscribe, because the algorithm works in mysterious ways. So occasionally I'll get recommended a faceless creator, and I swear to Bob, there is this one who sat like the guy's voice genuinely sounds like AI. And it was funny because I saw this pop up, and in his video, he finally caved and shows his face and him in his um uh recording box. What is it, the soundproof room, whatever that's called. And uh and he's like, I'm a real person, please don't dislike, please don't unsubscribe. Uh, I'm real and I'm making this content. And lots of faceless creators who typically want to remain anonymous are forced to have to deal with with the collateral of AI pushback and also YouTube falsely or um uh falsely flagging some creators who are actually genuine creators and not actual AI. So their their videos are essentially being delisted out of the algorithm.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:16

And so can I can I stop you there for one minute? Yeah, go ahead. And our next story is a new a new product for making avatars that look human for YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:26

Yeah. Oh, my camera's following me. Don't do that. Um well, and so like part of the problem too is like so there's this YouTube channel, like Quantum Tech TV or something, who I'm not sure if they're AI or not, but they basically these channels like take other people's content and do voiceovers of other people's content and describe what's happening. And they and these channels too, they specifically target uh kids, as in like, hey, we're kid friendly, because kids will often just let YouTube run. And then so they'll get artificially inflated views and stuff like that. Um, and so part of part of YouTube's AI cleanup should hopefully fix that issue as well. Because I don't know how many times I've like walked in my kids' room and there's just some generic AI sounding voice just describing somebody else's video or something, and it's like, come on, how is this how is this allowed?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:16

Crazy, man. Anyway, that pretty much wraps up this month, but we always like to end on a happy story. So this is like a lighthearted story that I really wanted to show people. So I'm sure you've heard of the drones in the Ukraine where they're using like optical fibres rather than um radio signals to use the drones. Yeah, they can't be jammed and and low latency. Yeah, and so the birds are actually using the fiber optic cables, the discarded fiber optic cables, and they're making nests from it. Uh I just thought that was pretty pretty cool. It just seems it just seems like some kind of like sci-fi game you would get, do you know what I mean, where the the animals are kind of using these kind of random parts to make things. For some reason, I don't know why it reminds me of this game, it reminds me of Stray, if you've ever played it.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:06

I don't know why it does. That's the cat game, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:08

The cat game, and there's kind of robots in the cat game. Um I don't know why it reminds me of that, but it kind of just does, but um I guess it's like an animal in a kind of machine world.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:19

That is that is pretty cute and sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:21

Yeah, so that that's a little bird's nest they've

Fiber Optic Bird Nests And Farewell

SPEAKER_01 1:21:23

made out of fiber optic cable. So anyway, guys, um that brings us to the end of this month's podcast. Like I really hope you enjoyed it. And I want to say to again to everyone in the States, happy Fourth of July. Please don't drink too much, but make sure you drink a little. Um and you know, enjoy your fireworks and your barbecues, whatever you're doing. And I'll finish my beer now and crack open a another few and celebrate for you this side of the pond.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:50

Fireworks are dangerous, don't lose any of your fingers.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:53

Yeah, you know, you need all of them. You know, otherwise you won't have any fingers to lose next year.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:58

Yep. That is the truth.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:01

All right, thank you very much, guys. Have a have a great weekend, and we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:06

Good job today, chat. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:08

Bye.